# Cross River Rail (CRR)

**URL:** <https://forum.bettertransportqueensland.org/t/cross-river-rail-crr/177>\
**Category:** Greater Brisbane\
**Tags:** heavy-rail, infrastructure\
**Created:** [18 January 2025 00:32 UTC](https://forum.bettertransportqueensland.org/t/cross-river-rail-crr/177 "2025-01-18T00:32:43Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Metro](https://forum.bettertransportqueensland.org/user_avatar/forum.bettertransportqueensland.org/metro/32/237_2.png) [@Metro](https://forum.bettertransportqueensland.org/u/Metro)\
**Post date:** [18 January 2025 00:32 UTC](https://forum.bettertransportqueensland.org/t/cross-river-rail-crr/177/1 "2025-01-18T00:32:43Z")

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A thread for Cross River Rail discussion and material.

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**Author:** ![Metro](https://forum.bettertransportqueensland.org/user_avatar/forum.bettertransportqueensland.org/metro/32/237_2.png) [@Metro](https://forum.bettertransportqueensland.org/u/Metro)\
**Post date:** [18 January 2025 00:42 UTC](https://forum.bettertransportqueensland.org/t/cross-river-rail-crr/177/2 "2025-01-18T00:42:23Z")

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The Wilbur Smith Plan 1970 (there were two plans, 1965 and 1970) version of today’s Cross River Rail proposal. The Wilbur Smith Plan was a highly influential all-mode transport plan that covered whole-of-transport system (rail, roads, bus etc).

 ![image](https://d2ncxwic62bt2e.cloudfront.net/original/1X/979f4c1004ea2bea84eda95d5094e0716b6fef84.jpeg)

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**Notes**

These images are from the ‘South East Queensland – Brisbane Region Public Transport Study’ 1970 from section 6 'The recommended plan" pages 101- 124 by Wilbur Smith and Associates, CT, USA. They are reproduced here for the purposes of research, study, discussion, criticism and review.

A copy of the Wilbur Smith plan is available in the University of Queensland Architecture and Music Library. [https://search.library.uq.edu.au/permalink/f/18av8c1/61UQ\_ALMA21113366030003131](https://search.library.uq.edu.au/permalink/f/18av8c1/61UQ_ALMA21113366030003131)

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**Author:** ![Metro](https://forum.bettertransportqueensland.org/user_avatar/forum.bettertransportqueensland.org/metro/32/237_2.png) [@Metro](https://forum.bettertransportqueensland.org/u/Metro)\
**Post date:** [18 January 2025 00:48 UTC](https://forum.bettertransportqueensland.org/t/cross-river-rail-crr/177/3 "2025-01-18T00:48:05Z")

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Mel Pikos - Cross River Rail

[![](https://d2ncxwic62bt2e.cloudfront.net/original/1X/bc74c54686229f3ba0b500291209619fd19c2b87.jpeg "Cross River FAIL: Brisbane’s $17 BILLION Infrastructure Nightmare") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V1GYAnWMQUA)

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**Author:** ![ilovebrizvegas](https://forum.bettertransportqueensland.org/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/i/5f8ce5/32.png) [@ilovebrizvegas](https://forum.bettertransportqueensland.org/u/ilovebrizvegas)\
**Post date:** [26 January 2025 05:18 UTC](https://forum.bettertransportqueensland.org/t/cross-river-rail-crr/177/4 "2025-01-26T05:18:03Z")

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Imagine how different the city would have been if:

1. This railway plan was constructed.
2. The tram system was kept.

It’s almost depressing to think about!

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**Author:** ![Jonno](https://forum.bettertransportqueensland.org/user_avatar/forum.bettertransportqueensland.org/jonno/32/558_2.png) [@Jonno](https://forum.bettertransportqueensland.org/u/Jonno)\
**Post date:** [28 January 2025 21:06 UTC](https://forum.bettertransportqueensland.org/t/cross-river-rail-crr/177/5 "2025-01-28T21:06:57Z")

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> **[Old Brisbane Album | 1926 Cross River Proposal, note the proposed two deck...](https://www.facebook.com/share/p/19tcRt7252/?mibextid=wwXIfr)**
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> 1926 Cross River Proposal, note the proposed two deck bridge at the site of what is now the Grey Street Bridge. 
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> https://library-brisbane.ent.sirsidynix.net.au/client/en\_AU/search/asset/43471/0...

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**Author:** ![Verbatim9](https://forum.bettertransportqueensland.org/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/v/eb9ed0/32.png) [@Verbatim9](https://forum.bettertransportqueensland.org/u/Verbatim9)\
**Post date:** [24 February 2025 10:57 UTC](https://forum.bettertransportqueensland.org/t/cross-river-rail-crr/177/6 "2025-02-24T10:57:05Z")

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I took some pictures of the Ekka station on Sunday and platform 1 is still not connected at this stage. Only the platform two line and the third track is operational at this stage.

 ![IMG_20250223_174054465_HDR](https://d2ncxwic62bt2e.cloudfront.net/original/1X/0d955b7912ce72580f75d160b1c09730b2aace07.jpeg)  
 ![IMG_20250223_172930383_HDR](https://d2ncxwic62bt2e.cloudfront.net/original/1X/1c1ee3655c69c4d5821984fa3f4028af62a3448e.jpeg)  
 ![IMG_20250223_173443533](https://d2ncxwic62bt2e.cloudfront.net/original/1X/63cf771d9391f18c3719e0a76250caa81a2646e5.jpeg)  
 ![IMG_20250223_173003807_HDR](https://d2ncxwic62bt2e.cloudfront.net/original/1X/4e4ef19c142e41f621b2a58719801f709d815ed4.jpeg)  
 ![IMG_20250223_173426220](https://d2ncxwic62bt2e.cloudfront.net/original/1X/87fe74b011c2a20f71f2a7cb0327c11e6f3a0bf3.jpeg)

 ![IMG_20250223_174100766_HDR](https://d2ncxwic62bt2e.cloudfront.net/original/1X/7d419208dc23ab3f5061f6e3253aa4a1548b3a7c.jpeg)

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**Author:** ![ilovebrizvegas](https://forum.bettertransportqueensland.org/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/i/5f8ce5/32.png) [@ilovebrizvegas](https://forum.bettertransportqueensland.org/u/ilovebrizvegas)\
**Post date:** [25 February 2025 00:31 UTC](https://forum.bettertransportqueensland.org/t/cross-river-rail-crr/177/7 "2025-02-25T00:31:12Z")

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Thanks for sharing this. Since I live in New Zealand it’s hard for me to get there to see progress in person…

I’m assuming the third track is for freight/long distance services?

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**Author:** ![nathandavid88](https://forum.bettertransportqueensland.org/user_avatar/forum.bettertransportqueensland.org/nathandavid88/32/1258_2.png) [@nathandavid88](https://forum.bettertransportqueensland.org/u/nathandavid88)\
**Post date:** [25 February 2025 00:49 UTC](https://forum.bettertransportqueensland.org/t/cross-river-rail-crr/177/8 "2025-02-25T00:49:11Z")

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Yes, but also just for out of revenue services returning to/coming from Mayne.

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**Author:** ![Verbatim9](https://forum.bettertransportqueensland.org/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/v/eb9ed0/32.png) [@Verbatim9](https://forum.bettertransportqueensland.org/u/Verbatim9)\
**Post date:** [11 March 2025 08:41 UTC](https://forum.bettertransportqueensland.org/t/cross-river-rail-crr/177/9 "2025-03-11T08:41:22Z")

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The new CRR fly through

[![](https://d2ncxwic62bt2e.cloudfront.net/original/1X/f1608ab6ba5a81a23d8acc6c2f7fe53b83eddf13.jpeg "Cross River Rail | Delivering more than just an underground") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XsNO-jpcQfI)

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**Author:** ![Verbatim9](https://forum.bettertransportqueensland.org/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/v/eb9ed0/32.png) [@Verbatim9](https://forum.bettertransportqueensland.org/u/Verbatim9)\
**Post date:** [18 March 2025 00:52 UTC](https://forum.bettertransportqueensland.org/t/cross-river-rail-crr/177/10 "2025-03-18T00:52:41Z")

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The Brisbane Channel reported that CRR will ramp up construction and de-watering activities being 24/7 for the next 30 days.

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**Author:** ![Verbatim9](https://forum.bettertransportqueensland.org/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/v/eb9ed0/32.png) [@Verbatim9](https://forum.bettertransportqueensland.org/u/Verbatim9)\
**Post date:** [30 March 2025 00:05 UTC](https://forum.bettertransportqueensland.org/t/cross-river-rail-crr/177/11 "2025-03-30T00:05:32Z")

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Cross River Rail - Exhibition Station Update

[![](https://d2ncxwic62bt2e.cloudfront.net/original/1X/045ee21c6008b744772a0c5fe96012f2fb8113ef.jpeg "A Major Milestone for Exhibition Station – See What’s New!") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rxSz16WsGdQ)

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**Author:** ![Metro](https://forum.bettertransportqueensland.org/user_avatar/forum.bettertransportqueensland.org/metro/32/237_2.png) [@Metro](https://forum.bettertransportqueensland.org/u/Metro)\
**Post date:** [14 April 2025 13:43 UTC](https://forum.bettertransportqueensland.org/t/cross-river-rail-crr/177/12 "2025-04-14T13:43:30Z")

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Latest CRR Post - Testing Phase

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**Author:** ![Beerwatcher](https://forum.bettertransportqueensland.org/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/b/6de8d8/32.png) [@Beerwatcher](https://forum.bettertransportqueensland.org/u/Beerwatcher)\
**Post date:** [14 April 2025 20:48 UTC](https://forum.bettertransportqueensland.org/t/cross-river-rail-crr/177/13 "2025-04-14T20:48:00Z")

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Starting to look pretty finished, I am still skeptical about the government’s claim that we won’t see services running until 2029. Albert St still requires some work at the street level but surely not 3-4 years worth.

ETCS testing seems to be in full swing too, decent weekday closure coming up on the Shorncliffe line and CRR recently released a cryptic video showing testing and commissioning underway.

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**Author:** ![Ozbob](https://forum.bettertransportqueensland.org/user_avatar/forum.bettertransportqueensland.org/ozbob/32/1784_2.png) [@Ozbob](https://forum.bettertransportqueensland.org/u/Ozbob)\
**Post date:** [14 April 2025 21:33 UTC](https://forum.bettertransportqueensland.org/t/cross-river-rail-crr/177/14 "2025-04-14T21:33:44Z")

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**Author:** ![Ozbob](https://forum.bettertransportqueensland.org/user_avatar/forum.bettertransportqueensland.org/ozbob/32/1784_2.png) [@Ozbob](https://forum.bettertransportqueensland.org/u/Ozbob)\
**Post date:** [14 April 2025 21:37 UTC](https://forum.bettertransportqueensland.org/t/cross-river-rail-crr/177/15 "2025-04-14T21:37:36Z")

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^ I have always thought the ’ Gabba station will be very attractive. Starting to look that way hey?

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**Author:** ![Habitant](https://forum.bettertransportqueensland.org/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/h/258eb7/32.png) [@Habitant](https://forum.bettertransportqueensland.org/u/Habitant)\
**Post date:** [14 April 2025 22:17 UTC](https://forum.bettertransportqueensland.org/t/cross-river-rail-crr/177/16 "2025-04-14T22:17:58Z")

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Agree, 2029 seems absurdly far away.  
The Roma street works still look far from done, but not four years away!

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**Author:** ![OzGamer](https://forum.bettertransportqueensland.org/user_avatar/forum.bettertransportqueensland.org/ozgamer/32/261_2.png) [@OzGamer](https://forum.bettertransportqueensland.org/u/OzGamer)\
**Post date:** [14 April 2025 23:59 UTC](https://forum.bettertransportqueensland.org/t/cross-river-rail-crr/177/17 "2025-04-14T23:59:58Z")

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The new government is trying to make everything dire and a mess so any earlier than that is due to their superhuman capabilities.

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**Author:** ![nathandavid88](https://forum.bettertransportqueensland.org/user_avatar/forum.bettertransportqueensland.org/nathandavid88/32/1258_2.png) [@nathandavid88](https://forum.bettertransportqueensland.org/u/nathandavid88)\
**Post date:** [15 April 2025 00:03 UTC](https://forum.bettertransportqueensland.org/t/cross-river-rail-crr/177/18 "2025-04-15T00:03:44Z")

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I’ve gotten a look at an internal calendar used by CRRDA that tracks the entire CRR project, and I will say that the years 2028 & 2029 do not appear on this calendar at all.

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**Author:** ![Verbatim9](https://forum.bettertransportqueensland.org/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/v/eb9ed0/32.png) [@Verbatim9](https://forum.bettertransportqueensland.org/u/Verbatim9)\
**Post date:** [15 April 2025 09:21 UTC](https://forum.bettertransportqueensland.org/t/cross-river-rail-crr/177/19 "2025-04-15T09:21:00Z")

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Probably late 2026 early 2027 by the looks of things. Preferably, you would need Loganlea station online for optimal operations and I reckon it’s likely that they could get that done within 18 months.

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**Author:** ![nathandavid88](https://forum.bettertransportqueensland.org/user_avatar/forum.bettertransportqueensland.org/nathandavid88/32/1258_2.png) [@nathandavid88](https://forum.bettertransportqueensland.org/u/nathandavid88)\
**Post date:** [17 April 2025 06:38 UTC](https://forum.bettertransportqueensland.org/t/cross-river-rail-crr/177/20 "2025-04-17T06:38:57Z")

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Gold star for you - you’re on the right track.

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