# Gold Coast and Tweed Transport

**URL:** <https://forum.bettertransportqueensland.org/t/gold-coast-and-tweed-transport/662>\
**Category:** Gold Coast\
**Tags:** buses, heavy-rail, trams, walking, discussion\
**Created:** [16 July 2025 02:55 UTC](https://forum.bettertransportqueensland.org/t/gold-coast-and-tweed-transport/662 "2025-07-16T02:55:46Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![SurfRail](https://forum.bettertransportqueensland.org/user_avatar/forum.bettertransportqueensland.org/surfrail/32/418_2.png) [@SurfRail](https://forum.bettertransportqueensland.org/u/SurfRail)\
**Post date:** [18 October 2025 07:46 UTC](https://forum.bettertransportqueensland.org/t/gold-coast-and-tweed-transport/662/21 "2025-10-18T07:46:39Z")

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It isn’t physically possible given where the turnouts are located. Ormeau to Varsity possibly.

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**Author:** ![fanfei2](https://forum.bettertransportqueensland.org/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/f/e56c9b/32.png) [@fanfei2](https://forum.bettertransportqueensland.org/u/fanfei2)\
**Post date:** [18 October 2025 07:57 UTC](https://forum.bettertransportqueensland.org/t/gold-coast-and-tweed-transport/662/22 "2025-10-18T07:57:28Z")

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What about after the LGCFR project? From my understanding Beenleigh Station will be rebuilt

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**Author:** ![lott](https://forum.bettertransportqueensland.org/user_avatar/forum.bettertransportqueensland.org/lott/32/864_2.png) [@lott](https://forum.bettertransportqueensland.org/u/lott)\
**Post date:** [18 October 2025 08:05 UTC](https://forum.bettertransportqueensland.org/t/gold-coast-and-tweed-transport/662/23 "2025-10-18T08:05:21Z")

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Maybe Bethania to Varsity as a short term option? With the Beenleigh reshuffling the service could end there in the future.

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**Author:** ![nathandavid88](https://forum.bettertransportqueensland.org/user_avatar/forum.bettertransportqueensland.org/nathandavid88/32/1258_2.png) [@nathandavid88](https://forum.bettertransportqueensland.org/u/nathandavid88)\
**Post date:** [19 October 2025 04:11 UTC](https://forum.bettertransportqueensland.org/t/gold-coast-and-tweed-transport/662/24 "2025-10-19T04:11:58Z")

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In a post LGCFR world, wouldn’t it just be better to pursue more frequent standard GC services, rather than trying to shoehorn a short working service onto the corridor?

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**Author:** ![lott](https://forum.bettertransportqueensland.org/user_avatar/forum.bettertransportqueensland.org/lott/32/864_2.png) [@lott](https://forum.bettertransportqueensland.org/u/lott)\
**Post date:** [19 October 2025 04:36 UTC](https://forum.bettertransportqueensland.org/t/gold-coast-and-tweed-transport/662/25 "2025-10-19T04:36:20Z")

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In a post-Faster Rail scenario I’d say a two tier service could be offered for the Gold Coast:

- Varsity Lakes - Caloundra, express
- Varsity Lakes - Exhibition, stopping all stations from Beenleigh to Kuraby _then express Kuraby to Boggo Road, stopping only at Altandi_

The second service could very much serve a dual purpose: to allow Loganites to have a fast way to reach either the GC and the Brisbane CBD from their local stations, while also giving the GC a one-seat ride to those areas.

The idea in my view is to give every station in Sector 1 a 15 minute service with express, limited express and all stations patterns.

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**Author:** ![Metro](https://forum.bettertransportqueensland.org/user_avatar/forum.bettertransportqueensland.org/metro/32/237_2.png) [@Metro](https://forum.bettertransportqueensland.org/u/Metro)\
**Post date:** [19 October 2025 05:45 UTC](https://forum.bettertransportqueensland.org/t/gold-coast-and-tweed-transport/662/26 "2025-10-19T05:45:26Z")

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> [@lott](#):
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> It’s quite popular on event days for short trips so I’d reckon there could be something good to chase in there.

@alexjago Would we have trip data showing the flow of passengers from GC stations who get on or off at Beenleigh? Just curious to see.

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**Author:** ![SurfRail](https://forum.bettertransportqueensland.org/user_avatar/forum.bettertransportqueensland.org/surfrail/32/418_2.png) [@SurfRail](https://forum.bettertransportqueensland.org/u/SurfRail)\
**Post date:** [19 October 2025 06:07 UTC](https://forum.bettertransportqueensland.org/t/gold-coast-and-tweed-transport/662/27 "2025-10-19T06:07:11Z")

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There’s no intention of throughrouting GC and SC services though. It’s better for reliability and fleet utilisation to pair the outer service on one end with tge inner service on the other end, hence:

1. Sunshine Coast (new) and Caboolture to Beenleigh
2. Redcliffe Peninsula to Gold Coast

If it can’t be timetabled for 8tph combined at something reasonably clockface between Exhibition and Boggo Road, there can be a shortworking covering this bit to even it out.

There’s ample room for 12tph or more south of Beenleigh (IIRC it is signalled to allow 17tph even now without any ETCS operating) so I don’t know there is any conceivable reason to have split patterns instead of just running more trains. Beenleigh probably only needs 8tph at best. GC needs a consistent 8tph for the whole peak. With 4tph each line in the interpeak there should be a bit of spreading out from those who don’t need to travel in peak hour. Plenty of room then for (a) more trains and (b) gradually extending all GC and RP line platforms to take 9 car trains. On that latter point, it looks like the only station (current or future) on the GC and RP lines where you have a major issue is Kippa-Ring, where you would need to reconfigure the yard access. Otherwise the ETCS rollout should take care of the rest.

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**Author:** ![lott](https://forum.bettertransportqueensland.org/user_avatar/forum.bettertransportqueensland.org/lott/32/864_2.png) [@lott](https://forum.bettertransportqueensland.org/u/lott)\
**Post date:** [19 October 2025 07:41 UTC](https://forum.bettertransportqueensland.org/t/gold-coast-and-tweed-transport/662/28 "2025-10-19T07:41:51Z")

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You can say whatever you want about pairing Kippa with Varsity but I can guarantee you the powers that be will pair it with Caloundra in the end.

Saying “coast to coast” sells a lot more to the public than “coast to eshay land”, which is sadly what the Redcliffe line is known for nowadays.

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**Author:** ![SurfRail](https://forum.bettertransportqueensland.org/user_avatar/forum.bettertransportqueensland.org/surfrail/32/418_2.png) [@SurfRail](https://forum.bettertransportqueensland.org/u/SurfRail)\
**Post date:** [19 October 2025 07:51 UTC](https://forum.bettertransportqueensland.org/t/gold-coast-and-tweed-transport/662/29 "2025-10-19T07:51:40Z")

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If you say so.

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**Author:** ![Beerwatcher](https://forum.bettertransportqueensland.org/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/b/6de8d8/32.png) [@Beerwatcher](https://forum.bettertransportqueensland.org/u/Beerwatcher)\
**Post date:** [19 October 2025 09:03 UTC](https://forum.bettertransportqueensland.org/t/gold-coast-and-tweed-transport/662/30 "2025-10-19T09:03:27Z")

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Neither side of politics has committed to either option yet right? There’s not even an indication on a preferred pairing. I imagine it’ll be announced when the rumoured line numbering gets introduced (assuming that happens in the lead up or around the opening of CRR).

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**Author:** ![mocon31](https://forum.bettertransportqueensland.org/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/m/49beb7/32.png) [@mocon31](https://forum.bettertransportqueensland.org/u/mocon31)\
**Post date:** [19 October 2025 09:36 UTC](https://forum.bettertransportqueensland.org/t/gold-coast-and-tweed-transport/662/31 "2025-10-19T09:36:03Z")

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I guess the question will be is it an operational decision made by QR or a political decision from the minister’s office.

Under red team I can see it being operational, but blue team certainly has the ministers doing a lot of decision making lately that would ordinarily be managed by public servants.

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**Author:** ![arnz](https://forum.bettertransportqueensland.org/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/a/8edcca/32.png) [@arnz](https://forum.bettertransportqueensland.org/u/arnz)\
**Post date:** [19 October 2025 10:07 UTC](https://forum.bettertransportqueensland.org/t/gold-coast-and-tweed-transport/662/32 "2025-10-19T10:07:01Z")

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> [@lott](#):
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> Molendinar has units 955-957, 991-994 and 5771-5776 (ex-Sunbus SC numbering because they were originally intended for Marcoola) while Coomera has 958 all the way to 990.

5771-5776 were actually intended for Caloundra. Marcoola doesn’t have electric facilities installed.

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**Author:** ![lott](https://forum.bettertransportqueensland.org/user_avatar/forum.bettertransportqueensland.org/lott/32/864_2.png) [@lott](https://forum.bettertransportqueensland.org/u/lott)\
**Post date:** [19 October 2025 10:43 UTC](https://forum.bettertransportqueensland.org/t/gold-coast-and-tweed-transport/662/33 "2025-10-19T10:43:55Z")

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Speaking of…

991 to 994 have been in service for a fair bit now. All of them have been assigned to Molendinar with the newish cyan livery.

The newest additions are units 995 to 998, assigned to Coomera. Same livery, same all.

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**Author:** ![Ozbob](https://forum.bettertransportqueensland.org/user_avatar/forum.bettertransportqueensland.org/ozbob/32/1784_2.png) [@Ozbob](https://forum.bettertransportqueensland.org/u/Ozbob)\
**Post date:** [19 October 2025 17:34 UTC](https://forum.bettertransportqueensland.org/t/gold-coast-and-tweed-transport/662/34 "2025-10-19T17:34:28Z")

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Line pairs were indicated by the network diagrams in [SEQ Rail Connect](https://www.tmr.qld.gov.au/about-us/corporate-information/publications/seq-rail-connect). These were confirmed by TMR staff at the time. These could change within sectors now that Caloundra is happening.

Sector 1  
Gold Coast - Kippa Ring  
Beenleigh - Caboolture/Sunshine Coast

Sector 2  
Ipswich/Rosewood - Airport  
Springfield - Shorncliffe

Sector 3  
Ferny Grove - Cleveland

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**Author:** ![Ozbob](https://forum.bettertransportqueensland.org/user_avatar/forum.bettertransportqueensland.org/ozbob/32/1784_2.png) [@Ozbob](https://forum.bettertransportqueensland.org/u/Ozbob)\
**Post date:** [19 October 2025 22:34 UTC](https://forum.bettertransportqueensland.org/t/gold-coast-and-tweed-transport/662/35 "2025-10-19T22:34:52Z")

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> [@Ozbob](#):
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> Sector 1  
> Gold Coast - Kippa Ring  
> Beenleigh - Caboolture/Sunshine Coast

Future sector 1

Sector 1  
Gold Coast - Caloundra  
Beenleigh - Kippa Ring  
Sunshine Coast - shuttle from Beerwah

0r  
Gold Coast - Kippa Ring  
Beenleigh - Caloundra  
Sunshine Coast - shuttle from Beerwah

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**Author:** ![Ozbob](https://forum.bettertransportqueensland.org/user_avatar/forum.bettertransportqueensland.org/ozbob/32/1784_2.png) [@Ozbob](https://forum.bettertransportqueensland.org/u/Ozbob)\
**Post date:** [19 October 2025 23:24 UTC](https://forum.bettertransportqueensland.org/t/gold-coast-and-tweed-transport/662/36 "2025-10-19T23:24:42Z")

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Government Statement: Pimpama train station officially opens

> **[Pimpama train station officially opens](https://statements.qld.gov.au/statements/103733)**

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**Author:** ![Ozbob](https://forum.bettertransportqueensland.org/user_avatar/forum.bettertransportqueensland.org/ozbob/32/1784_2.png) [@Ozbob](https://forum.bettertransportqueensland.org/u/Ozbob)\
**Post date:** [19 October 2025 23:28 UTC](https://forum.bettertransportqueensland.org/t/gold-coast-and-tweed-transport/662/37 "2025-10-19T23:28:21Z")

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BTQ Media: [BTQ Welcomes Pimpama Station Opening but Urges Bus Service Improvements](https://forum.bettertransportqueensland.org/t/btq-welcomes-pimpama-station-opening-but-urges-bus-service-improvements/857)

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**Author:** ![rowangray](https://forum.bettertransportqueensland.org/user_avatar/forum.bettertransportqueensland.org/rowangray/32/5835_2.png) [@rowangray](https://forum.bettertransportqueensland.org/u/rowangray)\
**Post date:** [19 October 2025 23:45 UTC](https://forum.bettertransportqueensland.org/t/gold-coast-and-tweed-transport/662/38 "2025-10-19T23:45:06Z")

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> After a decade of decline under Labor, the Crisafulli Government is delivering a fresh start and a better lifestyle through a stronger economy.

I don’t get it. It’s unnecessary, but also completely ludicrous. Stations don’t pop out of thin air a year after an election. Politics just annoys me sometimes 😮‍💨

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**Author:** ![nathandavid88](https://forum.bettertransportqueensland.org/user_avatar/forum.bettertransportqueensland.org/nathandavid88/32/1258_2.png) [@nathandavid88](https://forum.bettertransportqueensland.org/u/nathandavid88)\
**Post date:** [19 October 2025 23:47 UTC](https://forum.bettertransportqueensland.org/t/gold-coast-and-tweed-transport/662/39 "2025-10-19T23:47:25Z")

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It is very irritating, especially when it continues on through the better part of a whole Government term.

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**Author:** ![mocon31](https://forum.bettertransportqueensland.org/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/m/49beb7/32.png) [@mocon31](https://forum.bettertransportqueensland.org/u/mocon31)\
**Post date:** [20 October 2025 00:54 UTC](https://forum.bettertransportqueensland.org/t/gold-coast-and-tweed-transport/662/40 "2025-10-20T00:54:07Z")

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My favourite one was definitely the New Secure Mental Health Rehabilitation Service at GCUH ([Statement from 4 March 2025, day 127 of the new government](https://statements.qld.gov.au/statements/102124))

They legitimately expect people to believe that ‘after a decade of Labor’ the LNP has ‘delivered’ a brand new 40 bed facility within their first 18 weeks (including Christmas..)

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