On the footpaths

Isn’t this a nice park in Bowen Hills? I’m sure it’s a great place for the kids to play :smiley:

… if they get there alive :grimacing:

Like what the hell BCC??? You pay all this money for a nice park but the funding stops when you get to the curb?!?!?! :man_facepalming::man_facepalming::man_facepalming:

Cars fly through this roundabout too.

Also on a slight tangent, why is it that we seem incapable of having raised zebra crossings at roundabouts in Australia? OH NOOO, A CAR HAS TO STOP ON THE ROUNDABOUT?!?! SHIVER ME TIMBERS! THE WORLD IS FALLING DOWN!!!

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That roundabout also needs upgrading to include provisions for cyclists.

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Remove roundabouts, they suck.

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Roundabouts can be far safer for pedestrians and cyclists than a 4 way intersection if designed well. For example, have a look at the Dutsch Style Roundabout.

The important aspects for a safe roundabout are;

  • Small turning circle to restrict the speed of motorists
  • Narrow lane/s to slow speed, particularly at the entrances and exits.
    • Ideally there should only ever be 1 lane to produce the safest roundabout.
  • Raised zebra crossings on all roads surrounding the roundabout.
    • Positioned such that it is a near right-angle to the road (so that pedestrians and cyclists are not hiding by a blind spot).
    • Traffic island so pedestrians only have to look one direction at a time (obviously still look both ways! Some people are crazy…)
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A roundabout like that would be ideal for that area as it would help connect the active transport corridors from Newstead to Bowen Hills Station and further to RBH and the RNA.

It can be upgraded along with the proposed Perry Park upgrade for the Olympics.

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Both Vicki Howard and Schrinner are on record saying that they prefer pedestrian refuges because they do not slow the traffic flow. With people like them in power, we wont see raised wombat crossings anytime soon in the Central Ward (and Hamilton Ward too).

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Not to be pedantic but did BCC pay for it or did Urban Utilities pay for it as a legacy item from their Breakfast Creek Trunk Sewer project?

If UU paid for it, then it would make sense that it’s contained to the park.

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I’m going to play devils advocate here regarding this park.

First, there is a pedestrian refuge island all of 70m up Folkestone Road. I think this is simply a better location to cross this road at, as you are only dealing with just two straight car lanes, not three lanes with the addition issue of cars coming around the roundabout from multiple other directions. No matter how safe you can make a roundabout, a simple crossing on a straight section of road will always be safer in my opinion. Putting in a zebra here and maybe a hump would improve it even more.

Given the location of the park, I would also point out that the vast majority of people using this park I would suspect will be those from the long standing residential areas directly south of the park. All other sides to the park are still largely commercial blocks at this point, and even when the new residential projects of the eastern side of Breakfast Creek Road come online, residents there would probably opt for the closer Waterfront Park or Newstead Park, over this park.

That’s a good point, however the paths specifically direct people towards the Roundabout. It seems like an oversight to not have the paths lead towards the existing crossing!

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Obviously people with mobility issues don’t exist in Brisbane, otherwise you wouldn’t see pedestrian buttons like this! :man_facepalming:

Corner of Kent Road and Kedron Park Road, Woolowin. Just across from Wooloowin State School, within 200 metres of Kedron State High School, and within 800 metres of Kedron Brook Busway Station. I am absolutely positive that no one accessing these locations will have trouble with this signal. Nu-uh. :melting_face:

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There is no consistency with those traffic light buttons around Brisbane. It’s even more difficult sometimes when you’re on a bike at some intersections.

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For certain intersections, I’ve noticed that despite there being no conflict between drivers and pedestrians, the pedestrian lights stay red - I assume this is to allow for quick changes to the lights for drivers, but I think, especially if the light cycle is long, it would help to make the light green for pedestrians - I know this is already done in the CBD due to heavy foot traffic, but it could be something to consider advocating for.

It might also help with accessibility, as shown in the above example