# On the network

**URL:** <https://forum.bettertransportqueensland.org/t/on-the-network/335>\
**Category:** General\
**Tags:** buses, heavy-rail, trams, discussion\
**Created:** [14 March 2025 03:35 UTC](https://forum.bettertransportqueensland.org/t/on-the-network/335 "2025-03-14T03:35:47Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Ozbob](https://forum.bettertransportqueensland.org/user_avatar/forum.bettertransportqueensland.org/ozbob/32/1784_2.png) [@Ozbob](https://forum.bettertransportqueensland.org/u/Ozbob)\
**Post date:** [8 August 2025 01:22 UTC](https://forum.bettertransportqueensland.org/t/on-the-network/335/408 "2025-08-08T01:22:19Z")

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**Author:** ![lott](https://forum.bettertransportqueensland.org/user_avatar/forum.bettertransportqueensland.org/lott/32/864_2.png) [@lott](https://forum.bettertransportqueensland.org/u/lott)\
**Post date:** [11 August 2025 01:57 UTC](https://forum.bettertransportqueensland.org/t/on-the-network/335/409 "2025-08-11T01:57:34Z")

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Transport for NSW signage on a practically new translink bus…

We really reeeeeeally need to push for an official design manual for graphic signage.

 ![IMG_6586](https://d2ncxwic62bt2e.cloudfront.net/original/2X/4/4a9cdc8e28385ab8b00013a9d18736d53dc0dd54.jpeg)

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**Author:** ![nathandavid88](https://forum.bettertransportqueensland.org/user_avatar/forum.bettertransportqueensland.org/nathandavid88/32/1258_2.png) [@nathandavid88](https://forum.bettertransportqueensland.org/u/nathandavid88)\
**Post date:** [11 August 2025 04:38 UTC](https://forum.bettertransportqueensland.org/t/on-the-network/335/410 "2025-08-11T04:38:18Z")

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Was this on a Translink-branded/supplied bus, or a bus independently purchased by the individual operator?

There are a series of public transport infrastructure design and signage manuals available, they just don’t appear to include a section for general on-board signage based on by quick skim through them.

[https://www.tmr.qld.gov.au/business-industry/Technical-standards-publications/Public-transport-infrastructure-manuals](https://www.tmr.qld.gov.au/business-industry/Technical-standards-publications/Public-transport-infrastructure-manuals)

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**Author:** ![lott](https://forum.bettertransportqueensland.org/user_avatar/forum.bettertransportqueensland.org/lott/32/864_2.png) [@lott](https://forum.bettertransportqueensland.org/u/lott)\
**Post date:** [11 August 2025 05:00 UTC](https://forum.bettertransportqueensland.org/t/on-the-network/335/411 "2025-08-11T05:00:21Z")

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Yeah the TMR manuals have zero rules regarding interior signage on board any type of vehicle.

About the bus: it was bought by the operator (a MAN VST from Kinetic) but it’s not just them: every single Endeavour delivered to Clarks (and also their new Volvo VSTs!) have TfNSW decals and signage.

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**Author:** ![SEQTransportinMotionYT](https://forum.bettertransportqueensland.org/user_avatar/forum.bettertransportqueensland.org/seqtransportinmotionyt/32/905_2.png) [@SEQTransportinMotionYT](https://forum.bettertransportqueensland.org/u/SEQTransportinMotionYT)\
**Post date:** [11 August 2025 06:46 UTC](https://forum.bettertransportqueensland.org/t/on-the-network/335/412 "2025-08-11T06:46:21Z")

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Apparently the newer Thompson VST’s have the TfNSW signage as well which is pretty crazy. Wonder if it is all they had, or could be made nationwide?

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**Author:** ![lott](https://forum.bettertransportqueensland.org/user_avatar/forum.bettertransportqueensland.org/lott/32/864_2.png) [@lott](https://forum.bettertransportqueensland.org/u/lott)\
**Post date:** [11 August 2025 07:00 UTC](https://forum.bettertransportqueensland.org/t/on-the-network/335/413 "2025-08-11T07:00:38Z")

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My money is on the latter because unless I’m utterly mistaken, those VSTs were made in Rocklea!

As far as I know Kinetic Surfside’s 945 or 946 are the last VSTs that were manufactured at the old Burleigh Heads factory, and those also have the NSW decals.

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**Author:** ![Verbatim9](https://forum.bettertransportqueensland.org/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/v/eb9ed0/32.png) [@Verbatim9](https://forum.bettertransportqueensland.org/u/Verbatim9)\
**Post date:** [13 August 2025 07:01 UTC](https://forum.bettertransportqueensland.org/t/on-the-network/335/414 "2025-08-13T07:01:32Z")

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Today at Helensvale 1650 inbound. No PH on the GC yet no peak services. Standing room only onboard also.

 ![IMG_20250813_165347113](https://d2ncxwic62bt2e.cloudfront.net/original/2X/b/b5c747d862fda96a13e9800ba9f77965b5e76731.jpeg)

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**Author:** ![ClevelandLine](https://forum.bettertransportqueensland.org/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/c/51bf81/32.png) [@ClevelandLine](https://forum.bettertransportqueensland.org/u/ClevelandLine)\
**Post date:** [13 August 2025 07:18 UTC](https://forum.bettertransportqueensland.org/t/on-the-network/335/415 "2025-08-13T07:18:37Z")

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Tell me that Translink/QR think the only point of the network is to travel to Brisbane CBD without telling me…

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**Author:** ![Beerwatcher](https://forum.bettertransportqueensland.org/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/b/6de8d8/32.png) [@Beerwatcher](https://forum.bettertransportqueensland.org/u/Beerwatcher)\
**Post date:** [13 August 2025 21:52 UTC](https://forum.bettertransportqueensland.org/t/on-the-network/335/416 "2025-08-13T21:52:58Z")

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Reports of commuter train vs truck at Runcorn level crossing, sounds like no major injuries which is good but likely going to cause some delays (and a damaged train).

Edit: Looks like NGR728 has gone into the side of a truck at speed, decent damage to the nose.

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**Author:** ![Ozbob](https://forum.bettertransportqueensland.org/user_avatar/forum.bettertransportqueensland.org/ozbob/32/1784_2.png) [@Ozbob](https://forum.bettertransportqueensland.org/u/Ozbob)\
**Post date:** [13 August 2025 21:54 UTC](https://forum.bettertransportqueensland.org/t/on-the-network/335/417 "2025-08-13T21:54:05Z")

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Beenleigh and Gold Coast line trains are currently suspended Kuraby to Altandi due to an incident requiring emergency services. There are delays of up to 60 minutes. Rail replacement buses have been arranged.

> <https://x.com/Translink_QLD/status/1955739981080654275>

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**Author:** ![ilovebrizvegas](https://forum.bettertransportqueensland.org/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/i/5f8ce5/32.png) [@ilovebrizvegas](https://forum.bettertransportqueensland.org/u/ilovebrizvegas)\
**Post date:** [13 August 2025 21:57 UTC](https://forum.bettertransportqueensland.org/t/on-the-network/335/418 "2025-08-13T21:57:28Z")

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I’m glad that things didn’t turn out worse than they did!

Also wish they’d make a move with removing those level crossings!

I guess that also means one less train servicing peak services so more 3 car services on the way…

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**Author:** ![alexjago](https://forum.bettertransportqueensland.org/user_avatar/forum.bettertransportqueensland.org/alexjago/32/49_2.png) [@alexjago](https://forum.bettertransportqueensland.org/u/alexjago)\
**Post date:** [13 August 2025 22:00 UTC](https://forum.bettertransportqueensland.org/t/on-the-network/335/419 "2025-08-13T22:00:32Z")

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Ouch. The Runcorn stretch is such a prime target for LX removal, it’s just a pity there’s no good way to punch the line through under Pinelands and get back up to Coopers Plains wrt local topography.

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**Author:** ![Ozbob](https://forum.bettertransportqueensland.org/user_avatar/forum.bettertransportqueensland.org/ozbob/32/1784_2.png) [@Ozbob](https://forum.bettertransportqueensland.org/u/Ozbob)\
**Post date:** [13 August 2025 22:03 UTC](https://forum.bettertransportqueensland.org/t/on-the-network/335/420 "2025-08-13T22:03:26Z")

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“Bonemill Road level crossing, near Runcorn station after a Beenleigh line train clipped a truck at the crossing, which ABC Radio reported was a B-double trailer. Police said the train was not derailed, and no one was injured. …”

> **[Brisbane news live: Train delays in Brisbane after Queensland Rail train hits...](https://www.brisbanetimes.com.au/national/queensland/brisbane-news-live-huge-cocaine-bust-in-brisbane-could-be-linked-to-wider-syndicate-20250812-p5mmc2.html?post=p5934v#p5934v)**
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LX: [https://maps.app.goo.gl/192MXM1CTWYtAXTM7](https://maps.app.goo.gl/192MXM1CTWYtAXTM7)

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**Author:** ![BrissyCommuter](https://forum.bettertransportqueensland.org/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/b/3da27b/32.png) [@BrissyCommuter](https://forum.bettertransportqueensland.org/u/BrissyCommuter)\
**Post date:** [13 August 2025 23:00 UTC](https://forum.bettertransportqueensland.org/t/on-the-network/335/421 "2025-08-13T23:00:57Z")

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> [@On the network](https://forum.bettertransportqueensland.org/t/on-the-network/335/419):
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> Ouch. The Runcorn stretch is such a prime target for LX removal, it’s just a pity there’s no good way to punch the line through under Pinelands and get back up to Coopers Plains wrt local topography.

Think it is possible needs some resumptions but very possible.

> [@2nd Cross River Rail (proposal)](https://forum.bettertransportqueensland.org/t/2nd-cross-river-rail-proposal/689/30):
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> Think you would/could/might just tunnel between Banoon to near Kuraby/M3 Freeway. 2 x Single Tube, Side-by-Side Tracks (becoming more common in rail tunneling) Some property resumptions for tunnel entrance at Kuraby. ([https://www.researchgate.net/publication/370535372\_Single\_and\_double\_tube\_configuration\_for\_transit\_systems](https://www.researchgate.net/publication/370535372_Single_and_double_tube_configuration_for_transit_systems)) Remove Sunnybank Station, Rebuild Runcorn/Altandi stations at Cr Beenleigh and Main Rds and rebuild Fruitgrove. Removes 4 Level Crossing. Stations only only built on 1 tu…

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**Author:** ![Ozbob](https://forum.bettertransportqueensland.org/user_avatar/forum.bettertransportqueensland.org/ozbob/32/1784_2.png) [@Ozbob](https://forum.bettertransportqueensland.org/u/Ozbob)\
**Post date:** [13 August 2025 23:07 UTC](https://forum.bettertransportqueensland.org/t/on-the-network/335/422 "2025-08-13T23:07:23Z")

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QR FB: UPDATE 8:50am: Customers, services have resumed between Kuraby and Altandi. We are anticipating residual delays of up to 60 minutes on the Beenleigh and Gold Coast lines. Thank you for your patience while we work to resolve this issue. We remain online and available to assist you.

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**Author:** ![ClevelandLine](https://forum.bettertransportqueensland.org/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/c/51bf81/32.png) [@ClevelandLine](https://forum.bettertransportqueensland.org/u/ClevelandLine)\
**Post date:** [14 August 2025 03:11 UTC](https://forum.bettertransportqueensland.org/t/on-the-network/335/423 "2025-08-14T03:11:41Z")

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This headline based on one passenger’s comment seems harsh.

[https://www.brisbanetimes.com.au/national/queensland/masterclass-on-how-not-to-run-an-incident-response-runcorn-train-crash-delays-passengers-20250814-p5mmvt.html](https://www.brisbanetimes.com.au/national/queensland/masterclass-on-how-not-to-run-an-incident-response-runcorn-train-crash-delays-passengers-20250814-p5mmvt.html)

> **‘Masterclass on how not to run an incident response’: Runcorn train crash delays passengers**
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> Emergency services were called about 6.55am to the Bonemill Road level crossing, near Runcorn station, after reports a Beenleigh line train clipped a truck.
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> Paramedics assessed the truck driver and passengers onboard the train, with no injuries reported.
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> A spokesperson for Queensland Rail confirmed everything at all stations and the Bonemill Road level crossing was “operating as it should be”, including boom gates blocking traffic access across the tracks, and said the organisation responded swiftly to the incident.
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> Passengers were kept onboard the train until just before 8am, when they were moved onto buses to continue their journey.
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> One passenger described it as a “masterclass on how not to run an incident response”.
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> “Got off train at Kuraby, not [sic] directions or comms from rail for over an hour. Buses start arriving then we’re told trains will be back again so buses are cancelled.

To have passengers off after an hour and services resumed about 2 hours later seems pretty good to me. Although communication and coordination around replacement buses and service resumption does seem to be somewhat a common problem that QR could plan better before.

Also very fortunate there no serious injuries.

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**Author:** ![sherooda](https://forum.bettertransportqueensland.org/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/s/ba8739/32.png) [@sherooda](https://forum.bettertransportqueensland.org/u/sherooda)\
**Post date:** [14 August 2025 03:38 UTC](https://forum.bettertransportqueensland.org/t/on-the-network/335/424 "2025-08-14T03:38:52Z")

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Completely unrelated with the Runcorn shenanigans, but just saw a southbound 333 sandwiched between 2 southbound 340s on the INB before RBWH.

Considering this is currently off peak, its very whacky to see such bus bunching with bus services with a supposed total frequency of 7.5min.

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**Author:** ![Despoina](https://forum.bettertransportqueensland.org/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/d/e0b2c6/32.png) [@Despoina](https://forum.bettertransportqueensland.org/u/Despoina)\
**Post date:** [14 August 2025 05:42 UTC](https://forum.bettertransportqueensland.org/t/on-the-network/335/425 "2025-08-14T05:42:23Z")

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I catch buses from Herston Station very regularly, and this has been a problem for years.

All services, no matter the time of day, seem to go the INB in pulses, so a lot of the time you have to wait 10 minutes for a bus when nominally, a bus should be able to arrive every 2 minutes or so towards the city. What’s worse is usually after this gap in services, a 340 or 330 full of people from the outer suburbs will show up first, rather than the 66/M2 from RBWH, so everyone tries to cram onto the already full buses, a good chunk which only have rear single leaf doors, and then a few minutes later an articulated bus will go through almost empty from having just started off at RBWH, picking up only a couple people as it follows directly behind the preceding bus before usually overtaking it at Normanby. This is for inbound buses, but it seems to happen in the outbound too.

I hoped the Gympie Road bus timetable rejig following the transitway “completion” would alleviate this, which it did not. I then hoped M2 replacing the 66 might fix this, which it did not. And then I hoped the new bus network’s slight tweak of northside timetabling might fix this, which it also did not.

I also used to regulaly catch 330’s from the city to and beyond Chermside, and they got seriously crammed with people boarding in the city to reach INB destinations, so I’ve also experienced how this impacts journeys from well beyond the INB, and this seemingly minor problem makes the bus experience along these routes far worse than it needs to be for everyone who needs to catch them.

Just goes to show that even on corridors that have very frequent bus routes, along comparatively very high quality bus infrastructure, free of the (bus) congestion you get on the other busways, BCC bus network planning will still somehow find a way to completely stuff up the user experience while using the resources allocated to the routes/infrastructure as ineffectively as possible.

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**Author:** ![sherooda](https://forum.bettertransportqueensland.org/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/s/ba8739/32.png) [@sherooda](https://forum.bettertransportqueensland.org/u/sherooda)\
**Post date:** [14 August 2025 06:31 UTC](https://forum.bettertransportqueensland.org/t/on-the-network/335/426 "2025-08-14T06:31:06Z")

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The 4:27 (at Roma St) Springfield and Redcliffe trains were both 3 car trains.

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**Author:** ![sherooda](https://forum.bettertransportqueensland.org/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/s/ba8739/32.png) [@sherooda](https://forum.bettertransportqueensland.org/u/sherooda)\
**Post date:** [14 August 2025 06:36 UTC](https://forum.bettertransportqueensland.org/t/on-the-network/335/427 "2025-08-14T06:36:15Z")

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The Ipswich train (NGR) that departed after the 3car Springfield train had a very loud buzzing sound coming from its AC unit.

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