# SEQ Busways **URL:** \ **Category:** General\ **Tags:** infrastructure, translink, discussion, brt, buses\ **Created:** [17 April 2025 00:41 UTC](https://forum.bettertransportqueensland.org/t/seq-busways/415 "2025-04-17T00:41:37Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 6
**Author:** ![lott](https://forum.bettertransportqueensland.org/user_avatar/forum.bettertransportqueensland.org/lott/32/864_2.png) [@lott](https://forum.bettertransportqueensland.org/u/lott)\ **Post date:** [2 September 2025 03:21 UTC](https://forum.bettertransportqueensland.org/t/seq-busways/415/101 "2025-09-02T03:21:27Z")
On that topic: can we please lobby the idea of renaming Queen Street tram station? It only makes for a very confusing duplication with Brisbane. There’s a good amount of support for a new suburb in Southport called “Keebra Park” and using that name for the current station would be a lot better. ---
**Author:** ![Metro](https://forum.bettertransportqueensland.org/user_avatar/forum.bettertransportqueensland.org/metro/32/237_2.png) [@Metro](https://forum.bettertransportqueensland.org/u/Metro)\ **Post date:** [2 September 2025 03:58 UTC](https://forum.bettertransportqueensland.org/t/seq-busways/415/102 "2025-09-02T03:58:08Z")
> [@adrianosm](#): > > So, it is except it isn’t. The area is a big fire risk, so dont expect anything TOD to be proposed there. Could the risk be mitigated to an acceptable level though? Building design, placement, safety systems. And was the campus ever actually faced with a bush fire and when? ---
**Author:** ![adrianosm](https://forum.bettertransportqueensland.org/user_avatar/forum.bettertransportqueensland.org/adrianosm/32/2775_2.png) [@adrianosm](https://forum.bettertransportqueensland.org/u/adrianosm)\ **Post date:** [2 September 2025 05:14 UTC](https://forum.bettertransportqueensland.org/t/seq-busways/415/103 "2025-09-02T05:14:33Z")
I do not have the answer for your second question, but the answer for the first is yes. See: [Queensland government scraps plan to turn Griffith University student accommodation into emergency housing - ABC News](https://www.abc.net.au/news/2023-04-19/qld-government-scraps-plan-for-emergency-housing/102242250) The then Labor government deemed bringing up one of the buildings to fire safety standards did not offer value for money. ---
**Author:** ![SurfRail](https://forum.bettertransportqueensland.org/user_avatar/forum.bettertransportqueensland.org/surfrail/32/418_2.png) [@SurfRail](https://forum.bettertransportqueensland.org/u/SurfRail)\ **Post date:** [2 September 2025 05:26 UTC](https://forum.bettertransportqueensland.org/t/seq-busways/415/104 "2025-09-02T05:26:44Z")
Keebra is on the other (southern) side of Southport-Nerang Road, no? Wardoo Street would be better as that is pretty unambiguous. For that matter, “Griffith University” one station west is also problematic without the “Gold Coast” qualifier. ---
**Author:** ![nathandavid88](https://forum.bettertransportqueensland.org/user_avatar/forum.bettertransportqueensland.org/nathandavid88/32/1258_2.png) [@nathandavid88](https://forum.bettertransportqueensland.org/u/nathandavid88)\ **Post date:** [2 September 2025 05:56 UTC](https://forum.bettertransportqueensland.org/t/seq-busways/415/105 "2025-09-02T05:56:12Z")
I don’t recall any substantial bush fires around the campus in recent times, but I do recall reports of smaller fires occurring around the Mt Gravatt Reserve and occasionally around the campus as well (there was a somewhat significant grass fire at some point, I seem to recall). I have a feeling that Griffith University undertake controlled burns around the properties to keep the fuel load down. ---
**Author:** ![ClevelandLine](https://forum.bettertransportqueensland.org/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/c/51bf81/32.png) [@ClevelandLine](https://forum.bettertransportqueensland.org/u/ClevelandLine)\ **Post date:** [2 September 2025 08:36 UTC](https://forum.bettertransportqueensland.org/t/seq-busways/415/106 "2025-09-02T08:36:04Z")
Nathan Campus had a significant bushfire in 1992. > **[In 1992, there was a large bushfire at Nathan campus. The bushfire threat is...](https://www.facebook.com/HLSSGriffith/videos/539094476951440/)** > > In 1992, there was a large bushfire at Nathan campus. > The bushfire threat is still high. We’re proud of our smoke free campuses, however your safety is our number one priority. Smoking in the bush... Griffith University does a reasonable amount of bushfire preparation and mitigation. They have small bushfire units on site at Nathan and Mount Gravatt. There was a controlled burn at Nathan just on the weekend. > **[Fire | AVOID SMOKE (HAZARD REDUCTION BURN) - Nathan (Brisbane) - fire as at...](https://www.abc.net.au/emergency/warning/AUREMER-4c6fb6bf690223fe8c9265a9f953389a)** The plans extending to essentially closing campus on extreme and catastrophic fire danger days. Bit hard to do that for a high density residential development… > **[Bushfire preparation and response](https://www.griffith.edu.au/bushfire)** > > Bushfire season runs from Spring into mid-Summer. The University has measures in place to help keep our community safe and reduce the risk of bushfires spreading. > We have developed specific actions on extreme and catastrophic fire danger days to minimise the numbers of staff on affected campuses. This may include closing a specific campus on catastrophic fire danger days, asking staff and students to work and study from home and deliver learning and teaching activities remotely. All to say that risk is not determined by whether an event has happened before or not, but there are clear signs that a significant enough risk exists to warrant a range of actions. These are more feasible for a managed facility and ‘population’ like a university versus thousands of residents. ---
**Author:** ![SeekTraining](https://forum.bettertransportqueensland.org/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/s/dec6dc/32.png) [@SeekTraining](https://forum.bettertransportqueensland.org/u/SeekTraining)\ **Post date:** [2 September 2025 20:25 UTC](https://forum.bettertransportqueensland.org/t/seq-busways/415/107 "2025-09-02T20:25:32Z")
The other problem with building a TOD at the old Mt Gravatt campus is that despite being very close to the station, there is a VERY steep hill to walk up from the station to the campus proper. If you weren’t a uni student with no other option, most people would find this a pretty big barrier to easily accessing the station from their place of residence ---
**Author:** ![Metro](https://forum.bettertransportqueensland.org/user_avatar/forum.bettertransportqueensland.org/metro/32/237_2.png) [@Metro](https://forum.bettertransportqueensland.org/u/Metro)\ **Post date:** [2 September 2025 21:35 UTC](https://forum.bettertransportqueensland.org/t/seq-busways/415/108 "2025-09-02T21:35:33Z")
What solutions might there be though? Plenty of people in Brisbane live in hilly areas. ---
**Author:** ![SeekTraining](https://forum.bettertransportqueensland.org/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/s/dec6dc/32.png) [@SeekTraining](https://forum.bettertransportqueensland.org/u/SeekTraining)\ **Post date:** [2 September 2025 21:55 UTC](https://forum.bettertransportqueensland.org/t/seq-busways/415/109 "2025-09-02T21:55:33Z")
Yeah and unfortunately those places don’t often see a lot of walk up catchment or TOD. Whereas flatter areas like Woolloongabba, Chermside, Stones Corner, Newstead, South Bank etc is where you’re seeing a lot of the density going. It just makes it much more ripe for walkability/active transport. ---
**Author:** ![ClevelandLine](https://forum.bettertransportqueensland.org/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/c/51bf81/32.png) [@ClevelandLine](https://forum.bettertransportqueensland.org/u/ClevelandLine)\ **Post date:** [2 September 2025 22:36 UTC](https://forum.bettertransportqueensland.org/t/seq-busways/415/110 "2025-09-02T22:36:12Z")
The existing sporting fields, car parks and tennis courts are on the same level as the busway so would be better options - but still very close to bush so I imagine setbacks/ buffers would constrain the sites a lot. If they did that though the existing buildings would then be better off demolished and turned to nature park/greenspace. ![Screenshot_20250903_083217_Maps](https://d2ncxwic62bt2e.cloudfront.net/original/2X/4/4ac919a3608637595fce8440d9796075af0ccd3d.jpeg) ---
**Author:** ![Metro](https://forum.bettertransportqueensland.org/user_avatar/forum.bettertransportqueensland.org/metro/32/237_2.png) [@Metro](https://forum.bettertransportqueensland.org/u/Metro)\ **Post date:** [2 September 2025 23:07 UTC](https://forum.bettertransportqueensland.org/t/seq-busways/415/111 "2025-09-02T23:07:24Z")
It might not be all of the site, but the flatter part closer to the busway could be better for TOD. The remainder could be converted to offices or community spaces (e.g. library, recreation). So often we hear that we can’t have housing because the infrastructure isn’t there - this is a case of where the infrastructure is there and the housing needs to follow. ---
**Author:** ![tazzer9](https://forum.bettertransportqueensland.org/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/t/839c29/32.png) [@tazzer9](https://forum.bettertransportqueensland.org/u/tazzer9)\ **Post date:** [2 September 2025 23:46 UTC](https://forum.bettertransportqueensland.org/t/seq-busways/415/112 "2025-09-02T23:46:24Z")
Hong kong style mid levels escalator system ---
**Author:** ![fanfei2](https://forum.bettertransportqueensland.org/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/f/e56c9b/32.png) [@fanfei2](https://forum.bettertransportqueensland.org/u/fanfei2)\ **Post date:** [3 September 2025 01:30 UTC](https://forum.bettertransportqueensland.org/t/seq-busways/415/113 "2025-09-03T01:30:06Z")
I think this video would be relevant to this discussion: [![](https://d2ncxwic62bt2e.cloudfront.net/original/2X/4/4e8b1d921105831059a5130996c33068b2cbb0ad.jpeg "Cycling up hills suck – but not in Zurich | Why Not Just Bikes is wrong about hills") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KafmWR-g6NU) Could we have a series of parallel roads that follow the contour lines of the topography? So that the hill is spread out over a longer distance? I wouldn’t be entirely sure on the exact way you would do this, but maybe having roads parallel to Circular Drive could help, since it somewhat follows the contour lines (emphasis on the somewhat here, it still does look quite steep) ---
**Author:** ![nathandavid88](https://forum.bettertransportqueensland.org/user_avatar/forum.bettertransportqueensland.org/nathandavid88/32/1258_2.png) [@nathandavid88](https://forum.bettertransportqueensland.org/u/nathandavid88)\ **Post date:** [3 September 2025 02:29 UTC](https://forum.bettertransportqueensland.org/t/seq-busways/415/114 "2025-09-03T02:29:33Z")
To be honest, unless a similar campus-style use can be secured for the site, I would prefer to see it just demolished and revegetated. I don’t feel it is a location suitable for high density residential - it is a very isolated location separate from the wider suburb, it only has a single road in or out, and sits between the two important areas of bushland Toohey Forest and Mount Gravatt Outlook Reserve. Probably worth noting as well that the passenger set down area for the bus station (the roundabout at the end of Sports Road) appears to be no longer accessible by private vehicles - I’m pretty certain that it was annexed for the bus turnabout. ---
**Author:** ![fanfei2](https://forum.bettertransportqueensland.org/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/f/e56c9b/32.png) [@fanfei2](https://forum.bettertransportqueensland.org/u/fanfei2)\ **Post date:** [3 September 2025 03:48 UTC](https://forum.bettertransportqueensland.org/t/seq-busways/415/115 "2025-09-03T03:48:23Z")
Honestly fair enough, it would also be nice to have a station servicing a good area for walking tracks, and Toohey Forest is quite a pretty forest pretty close to the CBD, which is valuable ---
**Author:** ![nathandavid88](https://forum.bettertransportqueensland.org/user_avatar/forum.bettertransportqueensland.org/nathandavid88/32/1258_2.png) [@nathandavid88](https://forum.bettertransportqueensland.org/u/nathandavid88)\ **Post date:** [3 September 2025 04:50 UTC](https://forum.bettertransportqueensland.org/t/seq-busways/415/116 "2025-09-03T04:50:22Z")
Perhaps some of the campus site could be developed as a discovery centre similar to those at places like Karawatha Forest or Walkabout Creek? ---
**Author:** ![nathandavid88](https://forum.bettertransportqueensland.org/user_avatar/forum.bettertransportqueensland.org/nathandavid88/32/1258_2.png) [@nathandavid88](https://forum.bettertransportqueensland.org/u/nathandavid88)\ **Post date:** [3 September 2025 05:18 UTC](https://forum.bettertransportqueensland.org/t/seq-busways/415/117 "2025-09-03T05:18:20Z")
A fun fact I just discovered about Mount Gravatt Campus - the heritage listed private school [Yarranlea Primary School](https://yarranlea.qld.edu.au/) is located right in the middle of it, and they are eyeing off some of the uni campus land when it closes. _ **Primary school eyes Griffith University site ahead of closure** _ \ ***By Catherine Strohfeldt** An independent primary school hedged in by Griffith’s Mount Gravatt campus is keen to leverage closure of the university site to expand, as other stakeholders also eye off the swathe of government-owned land. Yarranlea Primary School reopened as a mixed-age independent school in 2014, having previously been a state school closed by the Newman government. Adrienne Innes, legal director of the school’s board, told ABC Radio Yarranlea had 60 students but was unable to expand “because we can’t build another classroom”.\* Read more: [https://www.brisbanetimes.com.au/na…ght-out-trump-urged-to-stick-with-aukus-20250902-p5mrsi.html?post=p59706#p59706](https://www.brisbanetimes.com.au/national/queensland/brisbane-news-live-broncos-drop-shibasaki-after-boozy-night-out-trump-urged-to-stick-with-aukus-20250902-p5mrsi.html?post=p59706#p59706) ---
**Author:** ![GonzoFonzie](https://forum.bettertransportqueensland.org/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/g/47e85d/32.png) [@GonzoFonzie](https://forum.bettertransportqueensland.org/u/GonzoFonzie)\ **Post date:** [4 September 2025 00:55 UTC](https://forum.bettertransportqueensland.org/t/seq-busways/415/118 "2025-09-04T00:55:52Z")
Close the station, bulldoze everything and turn it back onto a koala reserve. No schools; no pools, just a natural jewel. ---
**Author:** ![nathandavid88](https://forum.bettertransportqueensland.org/user_avatar/forum.bettertransportqueensland.org/nathandavid88/32/1258_2.png) [@nathandavid88](https://forum.bettertransportqueensland.org/u/nathandavid88)\ **Post date:** [4 September 2025 01:22 UTC](https://forum.bettertransportqueensland.org/t/seq-busways/415/119 "2025-09-04T01:22:18Z")
They aren’t going to close the station - it is still the Busway station that best services Griffith’s primary Nathan Campus, it was only just fitted out with a turnabout to serve as the terminus for a number of southern Brisbane and Logan bus services (112, 115, 123, 135, 155, 161, 177, 545, 554, 576 & 578), and it is the main interchange location between core busway routes and Mains Road routes - you get a reasonable number of people from the 130 & 140 getting off there and backtracking to Garden City (I do the same myself to get between Loganholme and my partner’s place off Mains Road). ---
**Author:** ![Axilya](https://forum.bettertransportqueensland.org/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/a/ea5d25/32.png) [@Axilya](https://forum.bettertransportqueensland.org/u/Axilya)\ **Post date:** [4 September 2025 03:06 UTC](https://forum.bettertransportqueensland.org/t/seq-busways/415/120 "2025-09-04T03:06:23Z")
> [@nathandavid88](#): > > you get a reasonable number of people from the 130 & 140 getting off there and backtracking to Garden City Of course, if there was a decent connection between say Altandi and Garden City, the need for this would be considerably reduced. [Previous page](https://forum.bettertransportqueensland.org/t/seq-busways/415.md?page=5) [Next page](https://forum.bettertransportqueensland.org/t/seq-busways/415.md?page=7)