# The Wave (DSCL) **URL:** \ **Category:** Sunshine Coast\ **Tags:** infrastructure, queensland-rail, the-wave, transport-and-main-roads, discussion, brt, translink, heavy-rail\ **Created:** [23 June 2025 11:14 UTC](https://forum.bettertransportqueensland.org/t/the-wave-dscl/574 "2025-06-23T11:14:43Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 14
**Author:** ![MossPickle](https://forum.bettertransportqueensland.org/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/m/41988e/32.png) [@MossPickle](https://forum.bettertransportqueensland.org/u/MossPickle)\ **Post date:** [23 February 2026 03:48 UTC](https://forum.bettertransportqueensland.org/t/the-wave-dscl/574/264 "2026-02-23T03:48:14Z")
So accordian buses? ---
**Author:** ![SurfRail](https://forum.bettertransportqueensland.org/user_avatar/forum.bettertransportqueensland.org/surfrail/32/418_2.png) [@SurfRail](https://forum.bettertransportqueensland.org/u/SurfRail)\ **Post date:** [23 February 2026 04:00 UTC](https://forum.bettertransportqueensland.org/t/the-wave-dscl/574/265 "2026-02-23T04:00:33Z")
Brisbane Metro buses ARE lighTrams. (Perhaps they meant shorter / road legal versions as compared to the biarticulated versions in Brisbane.) ---
**Author:** ![GonzoFonzie](https://forum.bettertransportqueensland.org/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/g/47e85d/32.png) [@GonzoFonzie](https://forum.bettertransportqueensland.org/u/GonzoFonzie)\ **Post date:** [23 February 2026 04:30 UTC](https://forum.bettertransportqueensland.org/t/the-wave-dscl/574/266 "2026-02-23T04:30:49Z")
We got plenty of articulated Volgren buses in Brisbane. Just grab a few off them, slap some paint on them and call the ‘Waves’. The BCC might be able to to loan out some of theirs. ---
**Author:** ![Axilya](https://forum.bettertransportqueensland.org/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/a/ea5d25/32.png) [@Axilya](https://forum.bettertransportqueensland.org/u/Axilya)\ **Post date:** [23 February 2026 06:07 UTC](https://forum.bettertransportqueensland.org/t/the-wave-dscl/574/267 "2026-02-23T06:07:19Z")
> [@GonzoFonzie](#): > > We got plenty of articulated Volgren buses in Brisbane. We probably don’t have enough, IMO. ---
**Author:** ![rowangray](https://forum.bettertransportqueensland.org/user_avatar/forum.bettertransportqueensland.org/rowangray/32/5835_2.png) [@rowangray](https://forum.bettertransportqueensland.org/u/rowangray)\ **Post date:** [23 February 2026 06:11 UTC](https://forum.bettertransportqueensland.org/t/the-wave-dscl/574/268 "2026-02-23T06:11:38Z")
We’re loosing all the gas artics soon. Some will be replaced with TMR owned artics on lease, but it will still be a net reduction irrc. One of the BCC meeting notes from last year have exact figures. ---
**Author:** ![lott](https://forum.bettertransportqueensland.org/user_avatar/forum.bettertransportqueensland.org/lott/32/864_2.png) [@lott](https://forum.bettertransportqueensland.org/u/lott)\ **Post date:** [23 February 2026 06:44 UTC](https://forum.bettertransportqueensland.org/t/the-wave-dscl/574/269 "2026-02-23T06:44:29Z")
16 CNG artics have been transferred from Garden City to Willawong last month and are now in service, while the newest set of Volvo B8RLEA Optimuses (also 16) have been sent from Sherwood to Garden City. @James00 and his Bus Tracker platform has been immensely helpful to keep tabs on recent fleet changes. ---
**Author:** ![rowangray](https://forum.bettertransportqueensland.org/user_avatar/forum.bettertransportqueensland.org/rowangray/32/5835_2.png) [@rowangray](https://forum.bettertransportqueensland.org/u/rowangray)\ **Post date:** [23 February 2026 06:45 UTC](https://forum.bettertransportqueensland.org/t/the-wave-dscl/574/270 "2026-02-23T06:45:40Z")
Indeed. The CNG artics only have a year or two left in them though. The Willawong gas tanks reach end of life soon afaik. ---
**Author:** ![lott](https://forum.bettertransportqueensland.org/user_avatar/forum.bettertransportqueensland.org/lott/32/864_2.png) [@lott](https://forum.bettertransportqueensland.org/u/lott)\ **Post date:** [23 February 2026 06:46 UTC](https://forum.bettertransportqueensland.org/t/the-wave-dscl/574/271 "2026-02-23T06:46:29Z")
> [@rowangray](#): > > The Willawong gas tanks reach end of life soon afaik. The 16 that were sent to W have new tanks so they might stick around for a bit longer. ---
**Author:** ![rowangray](https://forum.bettertransportqueensland.org/user_avatar/forum.bettertransportqueensland.org/rowangray/32/5835_2.png) [@rowangray](https://forum.bettertransportqueensland.org/u/rowangray)\ **Post date:** [23 February 2026 06:47 UTC](https://forum.bettertransportqueensland.org/t/the-wave-dscl/574/272 "2026-02-23T06:47:01Z")
The issue is the tanks at the depot, not the tanks on the vehicle. At least that’s my understanding. ---
**Author:** ![lott](https://forum.bettertransportqueensland.org/user_avatar/forum.bettertransportqueensland.org/lott/32/864_2.png) [@lott](https://forum.bettertransportqueensland.org/u/lott)\ **Post date:** [23 February 2026 06:53 UTC](https://forum.bettertransportqueensland.org/t/the-wave-dscl/574/273 "2026-02-23T06:53:49Z")
The other problem is that due to lack of interest from TMR in electric buses I don’t see BCC getting into zero emission fleets anytime soon, particularly knowing that council might never buy buses of their own ever again. But this is getting a bit off topic. ---
**Author:** ![ilovebrizvegas](https://forum.bettertransportqueensland.org/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/i/5f8ce5/32.png) [@ilovebrizvegas](https://forum.bettertransportqueensland.org/u/ilovebrizvegas)\ **Post date:** [24 February 2026 00:03 UTC](https://forum.bettertransportqueensland.org/t/the-wave-dscl/574/274 "2026-02-24T00:03:36Z")
That interchange is a monstrosity. The only one that is worse is that hideous interchange at Bowen Hills… ---
**Author:** ![Trodden\_Path](https://forum.bettertransportqueensland.org/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/t/58956e/32.png) [@Trodden\_Path](https://forum.bettertransportqueensland.org/u/Trodden_Path)\ **Post date:** [24 February 2026 03:42 UTC](https://forum.bettertransportqueensland.org/t/the-wave-dscl/574/275 "2026-02-24T03:42:14Z")
I don’t know if anyone has driven past it since they started lopping trees but it’s an awful sight. Of course, we knew what it would be like just from the design drawings, but the actual sight is truely shocking. Even more shocking that things like this get environmentally cleared without anyone batting an eye while the comparatively tiny railway running beside it faced vocal challenges because it would snake its way through the same wetlands. The juxtaposition between the MRI and the (hopefully-to-be) railway to Maroochydore reminds me of last century when American cities would bulldoze entire city centres and neighbourhoods for these sorts of monstrosities and public transport would be an afterthought or not thought of at all. I feel that TMR moved from design to construction so quickly, with little public knowledge or consultation, that there was nothing that anyone could do about it. ---
**Author:** ![Southsider](https://forum.bettertransportqueensland.org/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/s/3e96dc/32.png) [@Southsider](https://forum.bettertransportqueensland.org/u/Southsider)\ **Post date:** [25 February 2026 11:07 UTC](https://forum.bettertransportqueensland.org/t/the-wave-dscl/574/276 "2026-02-25T11:07:08Z")
> [@ExpressToNorthgate](#): > > The blue line is the integration of CAMCOS. Where is this map from? Also, do you know whether the MRI layout is the same as that currently under construction? ---
**Author:** ![Southsider](https://forum.bettertransportqueensland.org/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/s/3e96dc/32.png) [@Southsider](https://forum.bettertransportqueensland.org/u/Southsider)\ **Post date:** [26 February 2026 03:10 UTC](https://forum.bettertransportqueensland.org/t/the-wave-dscl/574/277 "2026-02-26T03:10:54Z")
A bit more info- the 2020 Business Case ([PDF](https://www.tmr.qld.gov.au/_/media/projects/s/sunshine-motorway-mooloolah-river-interchange-upgrade/mooloolah-river-interchange-business-case-cost-benefit-analysis.pdf)) claimed that > This business case refined the layout to provide enhanced connectivity, confirmed compatibility with the future construction of the Caboolture to Maroochydore Corridor Study (CAMCOS) rail component within the MRI project area it also said: ![image](https://d2ncxwic62bt2e.cloudfront.net/original/2X/f/fe89061fc26f7e5239307c2aabe16320b46f4842.png) Unfortunately the business case doesn’t show **how** CAMCOS or another PT corridor will get through the MRI, unlike @ExpressToNorthgate’s map, which I now can’t find on any government websites. It also doesn’t explain where this other “more cost effective” heavy rail alignment might be. The new LNP government’s renders don’t show any bus lanes (for The Wave) or rail viaduct (for future heavy rail), which is concerning but not surprising, since The Wave Stage 3 (Metro) is still technically assessing which corridor to use. None of this is reassuring that the State government isn’t closing off the possibility of getting heavy rail through the MRI. ---
**Author:** ![GonzoFonzie](https://forum.bettertransportqueensland.org/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/g/47e85d/32.png) [@GonzoFonzie](https://forum.bettertransportqueensland.org/u/GonzoFonzie)\ **Post date:** [26 February 2026 03:44 UTC](https://forum.bettertransportqueensland.org/t/the-wave-dscl/574/278 "2026-02-26T03:44:40Z")
‘The Wave’ appears to be following the same path as what the BCC did with ‘The Brisbane Metro’. Release a outdated draft design and an incomplete business case that leave out details about alternatives. Magically arrive at buses as the solution. Then spend 8 years building it and not bother to publically release a Final Design report or updated Business Case. The MRI is a car project, and anything labelled as a “provision for” is code for ‘not going to be built’. Let’s see what the 2026-27 QLD budget will deliver. ---
**Author:** ![ExpressToNorthgate](https://forum.bettertransportqueensland.org/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/e/59ef9b/32.png) [@ExpressToNorthgate](https://forum.bettertransportqueensland.org/u/ExpressToNorthgate)\ **Post date:** [26 February 2026 04:08 UTC](https://forum.bettertransportqueensland.org/t/the-wave-dscl/574/279 "2026-02-26T04:08:33Z")
My apologies. It could be an out of date render. It’s from the Sunshine Coast Daily but no source listed. > **[After 18 years, a major Sunshine Coast traffic jam is close to a solution](https://www.sunshinecoastnews.com.au/2020/12/07/mooloolah-river-interchange-sunshine-coast-news/)** > > One of the worst traffic-congestion hotspots in the heart of the Sunshine Coast could soon be unlocked. The state government is weeks away from finalising a business case to upgrade the Mooloolah River Interchange at Mountain Creek, used by some... ---
**Author:** ![Southsider](https://forum.bettertransportqueensland.org/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/s/3e96dc/32.png) [@Southsider](https://forum.bettertransportqueensland.org/u/Southsider)\ **Post date:** [26 February 2026 05:56 UTC](https://forum.bettertransportqueensland.org/t/the-wave-dscl/574/280 "2026-02-26T05:56:56Z")
The current MRI plans are [here on the TMR website](https://www.tmr.qld.gov.au/projects/mooloolah-river-interchange-upgrade-stage-1). This is the “future stages” plan. Ominously the CAMCOS corridor isn’t marked, but based on the map @ExpressToNorthgate posted, it runs left to right across the image (south to north). ![image](https://d2ncxwic62bt2e.cloudfront.net/original/2X/0/09a96e081e58849f174fb2a562ebb3ecca699c75.jpeg) Let’s remember that this is (a) already under construction and (b) now protected from basically all State-level regulation by the [Olympics legislation amendment Bill](https://documents.parliament.qld.gov.au/bills/2025/3262/Major-Sports-Facilities-and-Other-Legislation-Amendment-Bill-2025---Govt-ACID-f796.pdf) passed 12 Feb 2026. There is certainly no provision for dedicated bus lanes for The Wave Stage 3 in the above plan, so I’d have to assume the State government are planning for it to run in general traffic lanes. Building the MRI without the future rail viaduct would be bad enough, but probably the worst of both worlds would be TMR building some kind of heavy BRT infrastructure in the CAMCOS corridor. ---
**Author:** ![GonzoFonzie](https://forum.bettertransportqueensland.org/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/g/47e85d/32.png) [@GonzoFonzie](https://forum.bettertransportqueensland.org/u/GonzoFonzie)\ **Post date:** [26 February 2026 11:21 UTC](https://forum.bettertransportqueensland.org/t/the-wave-dscl/574/281 "2026-02-26T11:21:34Z")
Now you know why the Olympics budget is out of control - because **road** projects! :clap: What venues does the MRI and The Coomera Connector serve - zero. Why are they classed as Olympic infrastructure at all? - to prevent them from been stopped or delayed :facepalm: ![image](https://d2ncxwic62bt2e.cloudfront.net/original/2X/a/aa4eb008fcc05859e38de1ec130adfa78bac4b4b.jpeg) The MRI has more planned stages than any other public/active transport project in QLD! :facepalm: ![image](https://d2ncxwic62bt2e.cloudfront.net/original/2X/4/4e849c062f0ab5e5f616f087d29bac810e645971.png) Stage 3 (The Wave) - operational by 2032. :facepalm: ![image](https://d2ncxwic62bt2e.cloudfront.net/original/2X/e/e15f170854a41b73627c5d0eec6102f178798447.png) Stage 1 & 2 (DSCL) - no operational dates 😦 ![image](https://d2ncxwic62bt2e.cloudfront.net/original/2X/6/6f27b012dc93123381417fe5dda68531cbc855df.png) No mention of busways, or rail corridor for the MRI. 🤔 ![image](https://d2ncxwic62bt2e.cloudfront.net/original/2X/8/822b8db9355a52b3d13f20d2c58c1656194672d7.png) “Upgraded State-controlled roads, local government roads” for public transport projects? 🤡 ---
**Author:** ![ExpressToNorthgate](https://forum.bettertransportqueensland.org/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/e/59ef9b/32.png) [@ExpressToNorthgate](https://forum.bettertransportqueensland.org/u/ExpressToNorthgate)\ **Post date:** [28 February 2026 07:41 UTC](https://forum.bettertransportqueensland.org/t/the-wave-dscl/574/282 "2026-02-28T07:41:08Z")
What do people think about The Wave (the parts of it that are built as heavy rail) being built as dual gauge, for East Coast HSR compatibility? And to that point, built to a 320km/h standard? What would be the rough cost difference? ---
**Author:** ![Redrient](https://forum.bettertransportqueensland.org/user_avatar/forum.bettertransportqueensland.org/redrient/32/108_2.png) [@Redrient](https://forum.bettertransportqueensland.org/u/Redrient)\ **Post date:** [28 February 2026 09:41 UTC](https://forum.bettertransportqueensland.org/t/the-wave-dscl/574/283 "2026-02-28T09:41:47Z")
I don’t think the feds have indicated (at least at this stage) any intention to go further north than Brisbane. I don’t know specifically enough about the DSCL corridor, but it may not be suitable out of the gate for a 320kph line. It depends on the curve radii for all the bends on the line. You’re talking curve radii in the order of about 4,000m for those sorts of speeds. For that short(ish) distance, even one bad curve may somewhat defeat the point of trying to reach that speed. [Previous page](https://forum.bettertransportqueensland.org/t/the-wave-dscl/574.md?page=13) [Next page](https://forum.bettertransportqueensland.org/t/the-wave-dscl/574.md?page=15)