For a weekend shutdown I don’t see why it wouldn’t be manageable for CRR services to go elsewhere. CRR is not an alternative for the other routes, but inner city shutdowns hopefully would now be limited to one of the 2 current pairs so that there are always trains from Roma St to Bowen Hills - absent some urgent or unusual situation (eg flooding, fire etc).
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I’m hopeful that once CRR is online, that perhaps closures will be done in sectors, which will give as much of the network as possible the ability to operate throughout closures, and this would also mean access to the inner city areas will pretty much always be available.
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The Minerva report dedicated some space in its recommendations for increasing the distance between tracks in-corridor to allow for more one-side-of-the-corridor shutdown. But I’m sure I’ve seen e.g. mains closed subs open between Bowen Hills and Fortitude Valley before…
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Presumably it’s easier through the city when they’re more physically separate in different tunnels etc as compared to, for example, between Milton and Corinda where it’s mostly four tracks all next to each other.
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Unfortunately the State did not listen to much what was in that report. I believe the lad was called David if I recall who owns the consultancy firm. He has some excellent recommendations and worked on some prominent rail projects overseas but as always QR/TMR know best….
It’s just occurred to me that the little shenanigans happening at Caulfield with interchange could form the basis of some comms about Boggo Rd.
Although maybe there’s a silver lining - the interchange is so long at Boggo Rd and the tunnel so much quicker into the city that it’s not worth it for CBD trips? And for South Bank / South Brisbane there’s capacity on the M2 as that’s counter-peak relative to UQ…
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What’s the anticipated transfer time off the Cleveland line to Boggo Rd CRR?
It’s 250-300 metres, so allow 5 minutes for a bit of crowd delay / not being the fastest walker.
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Would be quicker if they put a second bridge at the bottom end of the station. I really don’t understand why such a simple improvement hasn’t been included in the plans.
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Projects like this suffer innumerable little cuts. There was also originally a much faster direct connection between the underground platforms and the existing surface platforms at Roma Street, but as it is you will have to walk for hundreds of metres and nearly leave the station before going all the way back to the other platforms, when they were almost above you from the beginning.
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Lol that’s insane for such a small network. I’ve already looked at my portal options from the Northside and it’s really Northgate as the best option which will make the parking at that station worse (I only ever walk to stations).
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Interesting article from CRR that lends a bit more insight as to what comes next now that the stations are almost complete.
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I’m glad they’re (finally) moving to this phase!
Does anybody with any knowledge on this phase of the process know if two to three years is absolutely necessary, or if this process could be done any faster?
This phase-by-phase process is expected to take about two years, which is in line with similar projects such as Sydney Metro, Melbourne Metro and Crossrail in London.
Even the CRR article puts into doubt the 2029 opening date. Why would they finish the phase-by-phase testing in mid 2028 and then wait 6 months to begin operating. I’m starting to think we’ll see services begin with a soft opening in 2028 before the final network configuration and timetable begins in 2029.
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^^Haven’t we gone through this before regarding train numbers and the opening date rather than the completion of the infrastructure.
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Yes but it’s more corroborating evidence.
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Has anyone noticed that the way they laid the track from the active current Mains track pair to the new Breakfast Creek bridge is a bit wonky? I saw that the way the sleepers were laid at the northern end curves toward the direction of the old track alignment of the new bridge before quickly snaking towards the newly-laid southbound CRR track. Will there be any plan to straighten up the tracks that connect the new CRR track pair to the northern Mains track pair?
Also, will they realign the northern Subs track pair to form a straighter connection with the southern Mains track pair just north of Mayne yard? Or will they use the switches that transition the trains from the Mains track pair to the Subs track pair north of the Ferny Grove flyover?
Imagine having the trains crawl at 25kmph or less when they transition from CRR to northern Mains and southern Mains to northern Subs at Mayne because CRRDA couldn’t be bothered to realign short segments of track to allow for a more streamlined transition between the track pairs, even if there is the space to do so.
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Is there a reason you cross promote your own posts? (You realise all new posts will just show up under “Unread” right?)
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There is merit in adding a link to a reply in another topic if the reply is relevant to multiple topics from a navigation perspective. This is more important for users reading older content rather than users who are up to date, so it’s importance is more of a long-term thing.
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