Direct Sunshine Coast Rail Line (formerly CAMCOS, North Coast Connect)

The Direct Sunshine Coast Rail Line

This thread is for Direct Sunshine Coast Line discussions.

The 37.8km dual-track Direct Sunshine Coast Rail Line will run from the North Coast Line at Beerwah to Maroochydore, via Caloundra and Birtinya.

Funding

The Australian and Queensland governments have committed $2.75 billion each in funding to deliver Stage 1 (Beerwah to Caloundra).

Notes
Direct Sunshine Coast Rail Line Planning
https://www.tmr.qld.gov.au/projects/direct-sunshine-coast-rail-line-planning

The mode for the DSCRL has long been decided.

Saying that however, DSCRL Stage 1 is effectively a extension of the existing Caboolture terminators (and redirected Nambour trains), within the existing capacity of the NCL stretch between Northgate and Beerwah.

Most existing Caboolture terminators effectively become Caloundra trains, and the off-peak/weekend trains to Nambour (with some extended to Gympie North to give more options beyond Nambour) effectively become timed shuttles to Beerwah.

Considering the Gympie North trains are not part of the CRR running pattern, increasing the daily peak Gympie North direct service to 2 or 3 trains in the peak direction (for a total of 4-6 peak hour direct trains per day) could effectively serve as the ‘defacto’ Nambour direct peak trains via Bowen Hills/Central when the CRR opens.

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Is the justification for why the current alignment isn’t feasible?

Based off the proposed alignment, the estimated travel time from Roma Street to Caloundra to be 1 hour and 20 minutes, assuming the speed is 140km/h, and a maximum theoretical speed of 160km/h.

For the DSCL to be feasible the travel time must be quicker than by car making it an express service to Beerwah from Roma Street and vice-versa. Which line will it be paired with and will it use the CRR tunnel?

10km of the line from the Bruce Highway to Kawana Way is to be elevated because of natural obstacles such as wetlands and reserves, with a 1km ‘short’ tunnel is also proposed under Sugar Bag Rd. Both the Caloundra and Aroona stations are planned to be elevated stations.

The section in between Parrearra and Mountain Creek has to cross over Mooloolah River to the Sunshine Motorway, so another 2.6km of elevated rail before running parallel to the motorway.

The Maroochydore station is the terminus station so any extension to the Sunshine Coast Airport cannot happen as it is not aligned to the Sunshine Motorway. The question is do you want to expand the line to Sunshine Coast Airport and beyond?

The Caloundra to Aroona section is one huge engineering, planning and environmental problem and it is because of this section the DSCL is not feasible to proceed for the following reasons:

  • Nobody should build rail through or above protected wetlands and bushlands/reserves. They are protected for a reason.
  • Is it not transport planning practice to minimise using tunnels and bridges/overpasses where possible. This is the complete opposite mentality.
  • The CAMCOS proposal done thirty years is outdated and was a product of that time. It doesn’t carry over well today as that area has changed since.
  • When was the last time Queensland built an elevated rail station?
  • Elevated stations are expensive. Two of them even more so.
  • Having 10km of elevated rail.
  • Having tunnelled and elevated rail components together.
  • That it’s acceptable to build new elevated rail through and over environmental sensitive areas but impossible to build elevated rail and stations to remove level crossings from Brisbane.
  • There are no Olympic venues at either Caloundra or Aroona.
  • There are no schools, shopping Centres, or large venue attractors at either Caloundra or Aroona.
  • The Caloundra Airport is less like the Sunshine Coast Airport, and more like Archerfield.
  • The need/demand of having a train station at Caloundra at all.
  • The thinking that heavy rail needs to be in the middle of most of Caloundra/Aroona or ‘everything’ to be feasible.
  • It is the wrong transport mode for the area.
  • That the train line fails to encourage rail usage over driving?

Predictions & Recommendations for DSCL:

Regardless of whatever BCA is given to the DSCL in the future, right now, the score would not be great. The planners chose that corridor with those obstacles and in doing so have burdened themselves with the engineering challenges they face, guaranteeing that significant time and resources will be dedicated to the Caloundra to Aroona section, running the risk that the DSCL may not be built by 2032. Having a re-run of the CRR → The Cleveland Solution → The BaT tunnel → CRR planning shit-show that occurred from the last three State Governments must not be repeated, otherwise no DSCL.

With all of the issues of the Caloundra to Aroona identified, the Caloundra to Aroona section should be bypassed completely and an alternate alignment looked at. There are other minor changes that would improve the feasibility and enhance the attractiveness of the line. The new proposal would be as follows:

*Beerwah to Aura remains unchanged.

*From Aura it flows into Bells Creek Arterial Rd with new stations at Baringa and Little Mountain before connecting to Kawana Way Link Rd following the existing alignment to Birtinya.

*Before Parrearra, there existing Mooloolah River crossing should be tunnelled instead of an overpass which continues along Kawana Way; with the option of adding a station at Buderim.

*The Maroochydore station will be located along the motorway near Main Street before continuing along the Sunshine Motorway to terminate at the Sunshine Coast Airport along North Shore Connection Rd to Airport Dr with the station outside the terminal.

The concept of running a train line through a freeway/motorway is based off the Yanchep Line in Perth. The rail corridor is confined to the motorway with stations built in the centre/median.

From [url=https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yanchep_line[/url]

Using the freeway allows for the ability to expand the line north as far as Noosa, via Coolum, and Peregian Springs, though not a requirement until post-2032.

If the above changes were considered, then the DSCL would be built and operational by 2032. The fight over if it can reach the Sunshine Coat Airport is resolved as it will be included requiring no elevated stations or overpasses which reduces project costs and build time, however a single tunnel segment is unavoidable.

If we were to duplicate how the Yanchep Line functions then each station will have its own park’n’ride facilities as well access to bus transfer stations. The low density nature of the Sunshine Coast allows buses to play a better role in both transfer and end-to-end trips around each station and the surrounding suburbs.

The only thing standing in the way of this proposal is TMR/QR having zero experience with freeway-based rail operations and construction unlike Transperth/PTA.

I would be extremely surprised if DSCRL didn’t use CRR, given Caboolture-Nambour and Redcliffe will both use CRR. The alternative would mean much more operational entanglement with other lines. [1]

Not sure about pairings at this point. It might just terminate at Boggo Rd (with stabling at Clapham yard next to Moorooka). Note that there are only two lines from the south through CRR unless/until Flagstone-Beaudesert gets up.

Speaking of getting up, Hope Island is an elevated station under construction right now. Before that, the most recent is presumably Springfield Central (opened 2013).

Kallangur (opened 2016) is also above grade, though it’s just on an embankment. Merrimac (also under construction) is definitely above grade, not sure if embankment or full piers.


  1. I do expect the Gympie North trains to not use CRR, but there’s only a handful of those each day. A timetabled change at Nambour isn’t implausible either, like how a lot of Rosewood trains work. ↩︎

You just answered why this would not be the opposite mentality in the previous dot-point. The fact it is to run through protected wetlands and bushlands is a good reason for it to be tunnelled.

Caloundra is a huge population centre with a lot of people wanting to travel to Brisbane on the regular. There is obviously demand for a train station there?

How so? Even with the length of the trip, it will still be quicker than driving in peak hour. I’d also point out that the trip length is due to the older sections of track South of Beerwah, not the new section that is being built. Rail is clearly the correct mode for PT into Brisbane itself given it is such a long distance.


Given you are so concerned about the length of the trip, I find it peculiar that you also want to make it take longer by forcing a bus to rail transfer from the larger population centres that you propose be bypassed to the west.

GonzoFonzie, would you be so kind as to provide a map for your concept for the benefit of members?

The Elephant in the Room is that the project really should be staged, and the first stage should go to Caloundra where it will link in with the existing or an improved bus/BRT network. Wedding it to a hard Olympics 2032 timeline is likely a recipe for a massive cost explosion.

I know the Queensland Government politicians have promised total completion by 2032, but none of their major infrastructure projects seem to run on time or budget, and multiple milestones for the Sunshine Coast Line/CAMCOS/DSCRL have been set and broken in the past - so why would this time be any different from the past pattern? It is reasonable to expect that the past pattern is just going to continue.

If the project runs overtime, what can be done to still meet a 2032 timeline? The answer is more resources and money, at a time that construction firms will also be rushing/pressed to build or upgrade Olympics venues and whatever else is on the infrastructure menu.

The other thing is that even if the line is built by 2032, do we have the trains and staffing to run decent all day service on it?

Orange - DSCL alignment
Yellow - alternate alignment
Lilac - most direct bus route

The alternate alignment proposes to run along Bells Creek Arterial Road and Kawana Way Link Road. This would capture more of the Sunshine Coast area that has room to expand at Baringa and Bells Creek, much like how the Gold Coast has its rail line on the periphery.

The DSCL is having bus transfers at all proposed stations, the alternate alignment is also having bus transfers. The Yanchep Line concept applies for Baringa and Bells Creek. For its size it is surprising why the Sunshine Coast is not a world renowned bus city given its size and layout, much like small European city/town.

All you need are frequent bus services that are line with train timetables. One to Kings Beach - Baringa via Caloundra , and the other Currimundi - Bells Creek via Aroona. For 50c, who’s going to complain about a 10 minute bus trip to the Baringa or Bells Creek station, and another 50c to go to Brisbane.

The end goal is the Sunshine Coast Airport as what the QLD Government promised. This hard target requires design and attitude changes are necessary in order to have it built and running for the 2032 Olympics. At least with the alternate alignment you can finish the line in one go. The only other option is plow on with DSCL unchanged but remove all Olympic events from the SC.

With the alternate alignment. Maroochydore is also bypassed. I added a station at Buderim so bus transfers can be made to Maroochydore.

The SCMT corridor is not shown on this map and is not part of the DSCL.

Looks like the Direct Sunshine Coast Rail project has hit a funding road block

https://www.couriermail.com.au/news/queensland/qld-politics/sunshine-rail-shunted-major-qld-projects-axed-from-priority-list/news-story/bc8492145e5db8113ef4acec8159459c

No doubt to fund a freeway expansion or 2.

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Diving into the CM article further I think that the next stage from Caloundra or Birtinya is not a priority.

Below is the TMR link on the project.

State LNP government still pushing rail line to Maroochydore for 2032

(Brisbane news live: LNP pushes for rail line to Maroochydore | ‘Teal’ candidate in Dutton’s seat | Two Broncos stars injured)

Sean Parnell

Deputy Premier Jarrod Bleijie has called on the federal Labor government to prioritise funding to support the LNP’s pledge to extend rail services to Maroochydore.

The Miles government only planned to extend rail to Caloundra, and Infrastructure Australia has now left the remainder of the project off its draft priority list.

https://www.tmr.qld.gov.au/projects/sunshine-motorway-mooloolah-river-interchange-upgrade-stage-1

You might be onto something here. Note the “provision” for what looks like a rail segment.

Maybe they should merge this with DSCL and watch how fast it gets built.

I would add that the project has just been dropped from Infrastructure Australia’s priority list - this doesn’t necessarily mean that funding has been dropped. As far as I know, IA is just an advisory board, and doesn’t control funding outright.

We have a Federal Election coming up, and South East Queensland is a make or break area for both parties. I suspect we will see funding pledged through the election, and probably by both sides given the importance of the project for the Olympics.

Even if the Maroochydore leg is put back onto the priority list, I don’t think they could get the construction done in time considering they haven’t even started the duplication up to Beerwah.

However, they could accelerate train line construction by using prefabricated low elevated bridge structures (2m), then bolting the track straight onto the concrete bed.

Hopefully they still can get the line built to Caloundra and Birtinya which is the most vital stage.

This should be our first point of advocacy along with the tourism submission.

I wonder they have included operational costs?

QR and TMR need to seriously look at a driver only model and reduce cost at stations. Some stations can be unattended and remotely managed from the control centre.

This can free up money over the long term for infrastructure extensions and enhancements.

Advocacy group Sunshine Coast 2032 is urging the government to ditch plans for a heavy rail line to Maroochydore for the Games and to consider using buses instead.

The group, which includes IGA owner Roz White and former Coalition minister Mal Brough, called for the long-protected rail corridor to be sold to developers to fund other projects.

Selling the protected corridor would be ludicrously short sighted. The fact that it’s even being proposed is unbelievable.

The timing of the this ‘Sunshine Coast 2032’ proposal is suspicious. :thinking:

Selectively releasing submissions before the draft review is completed is evidence the review is a sham. They can weaponise any ones submission if it fits their agenda.

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Is it the State Government releasing submissions, or the parties that have made the submissions?

The way we’re headed sadly, come the middle of the 21st Century…still no quality inter-urban RAIL link to the Sunshine Coast or Toowoomba - and a then (now?) Gold Coast line, that will likely not be fit for purpose!

Queensland perfect one-day, ever falling behind the next…and the one after that…and the one after that…