If i have to chose between more berties and heavy rail extension, id pick the latter to reach gc airport
Such a disappointment. First Maroochy, now this.
If GC wants do this downgrade, it needs to be easily convertible for later to complete it.
BTQ should do mass protests if needed, dunno how that works from.BTQ persecptive
They could extend the LRT to Harbour Town without controversy though.
It would be certified Pork Barrelingâąïž as an extension to Biggera Waters would fall squarely within Crisafulliâs seat area.
I think we might be coming at this the wrong way though. What does the LNP hate more than anything? Victoria. What if we can convince them that they should build to the airports so they can laugh at Victorians for having zero rail to their airports when we have 3 airports with rail.
Iâd be surprised if Crisafulli remembers where his seat is. He lives in inner-Brisbane.
Just wanted to add here, I was watching the 9news report and Tom Tate said something about 2-2.5k buses. I just want to point out at the current writing of this post BCC has a fleet of 1297 buses and has owned a total of 3009 buses within its entire history. Whatever number theyâre pulling from is bonkers as you do not need that many buses, 200-250 more buses sounds somewhat more reasonable if they accidentally entered one digit too high.
https://youtube.com/clip/UgkxB-DYoNL1mRkOohoqcnI4NlahwLEYLrnd?si=90SiB2hUt8H02LdC
Itâs disappointing, but expected, from my perspective. So many projects like this have been canned or delayed indefinitely - Northern Busway extension, Eastern Busway extension, Ellen Grove railway station, Salisbury to Beaudesert rail. The latter being ridiculous to me, because the councils out that way have greenlit so much urban sprawl with only hourly (Yarrabilba, Flagstone) or no access to (Park Ridge South, Logan Reserve, most of Greenbank) bus services.
reminds me of Newman saying thereâll be buses every minute along the Legacy way tunnel
Service based improvements are still on the table though. Still can improve PT even if the infrastructure has been taken off the table.
A Biggera Waters extension would be a decent compromise - it would keep the pipeline of projects going and wouldnât represent anything like as expensive or disruptive a project. Itâs a 3km or so commitment and substantially less complex.
Plan B would be Brisbane Metro style BRT buses in a bus or transit lane.
If this were implemented (almost certain now) that would still build patronage to a point where the buses were full all the time, then there would be little choice but for LRT to proceed.
Not saying this is ideal, but practical.
Gold Coast Nine News
The Queensland Government is axing Stage 4 of the Gold Coast Light Rail following community pushback and the potential cost blowing out to almost $10 billion.
Iâm making that my new desktop wallpaper
Haha I wouldnât dare put myself through that torture. I donât want to remind myself of how stupid this decision is everytime I go to the desktop 
Perhaps that picture could be used to represent any stupid decision the state government makes. Like we can post this picture to call out a government idea as pathetic and stupid.
Imagine the meme potential behind the image and decision.
Maybe Tom Tate can do a BCC Metro and do own LRT project and force it on Translink like Lord Mayor did with his NAM!
The DP does say in that clip that @Metro shared something about âspur lines out to other communities not served nowâ.
The problem is part of the NIMBY campaign is loss of road space for cars. So how are they going to take bus lanes?
It would serve them right but I canât even see that happening. The buses will just sit in traffic emblazoned with some silly name and âDelivering for Queenslandâ livery.
Gold Coast Metro: All Aboard To The Airport!
Turn up nâ go frequencies: every 5 minutes.
Diversity of views is the normal state in a democracy. If you make progress conditional on achieving perfect or ideals, not much is likely to happen.
Weâll need to find a way forward now that the LRT mode is off the table for now, and a solution that is better than a do nothing scenario.
Is the current QLD Gov administration open to extending heavy rail instead, for example?
This would be consistent with the policy platform.
I didnât expect anything better but the community consultation to support this decision is a sham.
About future transport options for the Gold Coast
» Q1 â How would you describe a great public transport system for your local area? [Open text field]
» Q2 â What are your concerns on the current proposal for light rail expansion in the southern Gold Coast?
[Open text field]
» Q3 â Do you feel that you were properly consulted in the prior process? [Open text field]
» Q4 â In your opinion, what key features or services are important to consider, for developing a great public
transport system in your local area? [Open text field]
» Q5 â What is most important to you when considering public transport options? [Rank]
- Affordability
- Accessibility
- Frequency
- Proximity
The questions except for the last one are all open text! And question 2 is clearly biased. Its the only question that specifically names light rail yet theyâve somehow produced a result of two thirds negative to light rail vs one third positive. Itâs not clear how that analysis was done (based on response to all questions or just Q2?). Iâm surprised it wasnât far worse.
5,662 submissions were considered:
» 3,962, from the southern Gold Coast and 1,700 from other suburbs (primarily the surrounding area and broader
Gold Coast region)
» most-represented suburbs include Palm Beach (29.5%), Elanora (7.8%), Burleigh Heads (7.4%) and Tugun
(6.4%)
» 94.4% from community members, 2.6% from business, 0.6% from community groups, and 2.4% from others.
Thereâs no consideration of how representative this is, which is not usually the goal of community engagement (its about providing opportunity for input if you want to provide it). But in this case it was explicitly conducted to reflect the views of the southern Gold Coast residents who they claimed hadnât been fairly represented.
Based on the limited results theyâve provided on the suburb breakdowns, Palm Beach is overrepresented by about 1.5 times relative to its population.