Regarding Yamanto, I have no issues with that being the terminus (although knowing local politics, there will be political pressure to extend that rail line all the way to Ipswich, even if it ends up being faster to just have route 515 running along Warwick Road to Ipswich with bus lanes). Politics and emotion doesn’t always match with logic and planning principals.
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I’m sorry, Flagstone is only an hour out of the city. People can hold it and there are toilets at every stop. So with frequent service even if there’s no toilet on the train, you could get off at one stop, quickly do your thing then get the next one.
No, not everyone can just hold it. From young children who aren’t the best at giving forewarning as to when they need to go, to adults who may have diminished ability to “just hold it” due to age, medical conditions (IBC for example), etc.
Just because you could just hold it, doesn’t mean everyone has that ability.
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Caboolture is 58 minutes from Central, and people (including regular looking people in work clothes) relieve themselves on the train reasonably often..
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Yeah but Ipswich and Caboolture etc are also an hour out by train, yet the EMU’s and SMU’s have done those runs fine without toilets onboard.
Speaking of toilets, I wished the NGR’s were a lot more clearer on whether the toilet door actually locks when you press the ‘lock’ bottom.
Currently, if you press the ‘lock’ button, all it does is emit a suction type noise to indicate that the toilet door is locked. And the red LEDs turn off into a matte white.
The problem belies in the fact that people have auditory and visual impairments, making it hard to decipher whether the NGR toilet is in fact locked or not.
A nice big ‘TOILET CLOSED’ in red (in the inside) would be outstanding. Hopefully the QTMP’s will address this niche matter.
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QTMP has a different way of signalling it iirc
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I hate they removed buttons from QTMP. Given our wild weather, if no one opens the doors it keeps that weather outside of the train and keeps the air con in. It’s more energy efficient in my opinion. One thing I instead would have done to QTMP is added a middle set of doors and also would have made the platform doors on Cross River Rail do this too. Ideally I would have just either ordered trains from alstom like Perths C series or would have just built more NGRs, but oh well. Looks like we are going ahead with QTMP. I like how the corridors are wider but don’t like that it means less seats.
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less seats ≠ higher capacity.
higher frequency = the seat loss doesn’t matter
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Well I have a compromise. To create more seats, whilst keeping rows wide, I think we should introduce saddle seats. These have been floated for use on low cost airlines and though I wouldn’t recommend them for flights, I would recommend them be used on suburban trains.
Then you have more seats and also more standing capacity. You’re also kinda half standing on saddle seats anyways. Also we would make them flip seats too.
okay
With all due politeness, I’ll pass on those seats on my trains, thanks 
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I think I would prefer to stand! I had a read around, none of these seats are actually in use. For good reason I expect.
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There is a difference in seating layouts between long distance and short distance services, on both train and bus (coach). Where the service is likely to take a long time or a long distance, more seating is generally provided and the seats are more substantial.
Where a service is short distance or short time duration, generally there is less seating and more standing room. So your Sydney Metro trains for example, have longitudinal seating.
Another point, which is indirectly relevant to the discussion here, is about where transport investment needs to occur. We constantly hear about superimposing a Paris-style metro over the inner suburbs of Brisbane. But the reasoning and justification for doing so - costs aside - is very weak.
Not only are the inner suburbs already better served by PT (due to convergence of many routes/lines, and the fact that BCC pays more to put a higher level of service on), but there are also more options for transport in inner Brisbane (walk, ferry, eScooter, cycling, bus, train etc).
Where transport is lacking is in the middle and outer parts of Brisbane and in regional SEQ. An inner-city subway service is not going to address that transport task, and will take funds and attention away from where investment actually needs to go.
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Just wondering, are you joking or are you serious?
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Half taking the Mickey, but also half fairdinkum.
I recall quite a lot of complaints both from the general public (on RBOT Facebook posts etc) and on the old RBOT forum about some trains on the Caboolture line lacking toilets, and the NGRs originally having one toilet per 6-car train was a pretty big issue when they were first introduced - so much so that QR fitted them with a second toilet. It’s pretty clearly an important issue for a lot of people
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Majority of stations do not have working toilets the majority of the time. I feel like its reasonable that our trains have toilets on them considering the distances people travel on them. Most of the users arent people in windsor and yeronga going into the city
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I would never use a train toilet unless I was taking the tilt train or something. Same with flying, I never do it on domestic flights only on international ones. Toilets are often disgusting especially on our trains, avoid at all costs.
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Mate I’m not from Windsor or Yeronga. I’m much further out.