2032 - Brisbane Olympics

If they opt to delay CRar by a year or 2, they should be making advantage to modify the northern portal zone & move the train wash station to maybe and clapham… Then that way can enable us to have infill in CRR for VP stadium as well as one side platfoem to shurtle only from Roma St witH normanby yards as holding zone for both directions into the single platfoem

Ofc it would needs change in timings for freights and Long distance to work around event schedules… At least those operators will have notice in advance !

I don’t know if there is enough width through there to make something like that fit.

If they opt to build this station, the Train Wash (which was only very recently upgraded) would almost certainly have to go.

The existing corridor isn’t, but if we consider the corridor width that was approved under CRR v1 there should be enough.

With 12m wide platforms spaced 8m apart you could theoretically build this in less than that same footprint:

A smaller option could be two islands of 10m wide with platform edge doors, and with the separate side platform on the surface line.

Note, the size of the side platform doesn’t matter as the location of the supports for the land bridge require the middle island to be in a particular place. I’ve also used 10m as acceptable as Perth Stadium Station has 10m widths (without edge doors).

I’m not an engineer, but I think there is an engineering solution here for a proper events station, instead of trying to shoehorn something in as a side effect of the stadium.

The engineering solution was to rebuild Woolloongabba for 60k as originally planned.

Perfectly good station being built now wasted on what… an arena that won’t be needed for the Olympics and a a stadium that is going to be knocked down.

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It will still be a great way to clear the ~20,000 seat arena which, while not strictly required for the Olympics, may yet end up being used for the Olympics if the private sector can deliver it in time.

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Couldn’t this Brisbane events arena be put where Woolloongabba Stadium is now? just a thought

It’s been reserved for parkland and apartments.

It still serves a 20k Arena and thousands of apartments (the station precinct is zoned for 50 storeys and 30 storeys across the wider area).

The original (2011) CRR EIS considered the Gabba station layout would handle up to 69% of the 42k maximum attendance stadium (so ~29k people) within 70 minutes, with buses handling 11%. Given there was fundamentally no change to the station design to the current project, I would question whether it would handle the same share (41k people) of a 60k stadium within the 60 minute benchmark people accept as tolerable.

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Really hope live arena could slot in the gabba surrounds somehow. And the parklands can preserve the oval grounds as memoeial

Cool image. Is this from Google Maps or elsewhere? It might also be possible to go further into the Park.

Might be material for for a BTQ Media Release.

They could even build that ‘National Aquatic Centre’ on the Gabba. Far better location than Spring Hill.

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It’s from nearmap.

I would be hesitant to go further into the park because it does have heritage value (my layout theoretically fits in the construction footprint from CRR V1 for this reason) but obviously Blue Team have waved all those pesky planning laws away.

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Their planning law exemption doesn’t apply to public transport infrastructure, only to new Olympic venue infrastructure.

This is the list of the planning laws that were “exempted”.

If anything goes wrong during and after construction of these venues because of the exempted laws, there is nothing in that bill that can save individuals in blue team, TMR planners and the external contractors arses as they are responsible once they sign the contract, they are knowingly agreeing to be complicit in the risks that will come as a result of ignored planning laws.

So let me summarise

We should build x - No there isn’t the funding

We should build y - No there isn’t the funding

We should build z - No there isnt the funding

We should build a brand new Stadium Station for a yet to determined Stadium location - Best idea ever Let’s build it already!!

Seriously?

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Yes… There isn’t the funding for it either!

Sounds like a plot line from ‘Utopia’.

The poor pace of infrastructure development and decision-making processes is of concern to me. I hope there are some concrete moves soon.

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It also applies to ‘games-related transport infrastructure’ per 55DC, however nothing is prescribed for this (yet).

There are also specific references to requiring Queensland Rail (amongst others) to do particular things as directed and take on new infrastructure developed for the games, although this reads as being minor/connecting works.

But yes, I wouldn’t touch anything Olympics related with a 100ft pole under these laws.

That’s my major concern, given the squandering of the huge head start Brisbane was given.

I will say that I believe the LNP is, to their credit, doing their best to get the projects started, but the delays from revising project locations, etc, isn’t something that can easily be circumvented.

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7 years today to go!

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