Brisbane Metro

When the Olympics arrive, I highly doubt that the busway and tunnels will operate in the manner that it does now. We would probably see something like road closures allowing a permanent right of way to be in place from the Melbourne Street Tunnel through to King George Square. Queen Street Bus Station will be disconnected from King George Square, with routes either being curtailed and terminating outside of the CBD during the event, and/or rerouted above ground and out over the Captain Cook Bridge.

I caught an M1 again yesterday afternoon (same time as previously), and again I found it to be quick. I timed it at ~30 secs from leaving the KGS platform to being aboveground. We did hit a red light at North Quay this time, but despite that we were still at Cultural Centre in about 3 minutes flat.

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I am a bit concerned that the Metrobus/Bertie system may be extended without even using Bus lanes and priority traffic lights throughout the entire system. Instead just using a weak rebranding of big buses that get stuck in traffic.

Are we in sufficient agreement that such an outcome would be foolish?

Would we be agreed enough that we could immediately condemn that?

What is the minimum standard we as a group can accept?

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it would be very foolish to mix metro with traffic. then again, it is bcc we are talking about

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It’s already held up on the busway still at Mater Hill, Southbank and between Roma Street and King George Square station during peak.

It’s kind of a disappointment after they spent 1.5 billion on it.

Plus people still have to run up and down the platforms at the stations as there are no specific stopping bays.

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Very true! Surely any expansion of the metro is services would force a more radical bus network redesign.

well FOUR metro lines are intended to service Mater Hill and South Bank.

And from what I’ve seen, an extension of Mater Hill is exceedingly unlikely because it is adjoined to Mater Health Services.

But South Bank might be a possibility, as it is an elevated busway station.

Usually these bottlenecks occur because of long dwell times (per bus).

An easy, short-term fix would be to make tapping off using your gocard/phone a thing of a bygone era.

The transport planners won’t like it, but it feels almost necessary, if we want our tiny busway stations (ie. Mater Hill & South Bank) to be hassle-free.

That, or you know, moving the ticketing to the station side instead. We have a next generation ticketing system now so might as well use it to its fullest.

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If they wanted to extend Mater Hill would they attempt the same methods as they used for extending the platforms at Buranda?

Mater Hill is short yes (only about 45m?) but I thought South Bank was the usual length of about 60m? (SB is barely any shorter than e.g. Griffith Uni or Boggo Rd P6).

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Surely it wouldn’t be hard to make the Bertie services operate via taps on the platforms. I can’t think of a good reason to have the tapping on and off happen on the vehicle other than the fact that it’s a bus and that’s how other buses work.

If we are to reach the point of 4 or 5 Metrobus lines will the busway need to be totally dedicated to Metrobus services?

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Yeah pretty much, it’s all very well to have platform entrance readers but if I’m transferring from another bus to a Bertie I need to have a tap point on the platform…

You also won’t necessarily know if you’re catching a Bertie or a regular bus until you see which one comes first

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The ticketing system should be intelligent enough to understand that though.

Passengers should not be able to reopen the vehicle doors once closing - that’s how it is with G:link and it is magical because it ensures ontime departures.

All bus drivers need to be instructed not to wait on busway platforms for people running, always pull up as close to the front of the platform as possible, never reenter the platform having left it etc.

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Interestingly, there were a lot of Sherwood TAGs and artics doing M1 & M2 earlier this morning..

Maybe Rochedale depot saw a lot of operators calling in sick today..? However, this issue seemed to have been resolved by around ~12pm.

M1: S1632 (artic), S1636 (artic), S1639 (artic), S1642 (artic), S1643 (artic), S5111 (TAG)

M2: S1644 (artic), S5123 (TAG)

The site I used was QLD Bus Tracker:

M1: https://www.qldbustracker.com/vehicle_history.php?vehicle_filter=&route_filter=M1&depot=&company_id=A7393ED51E387246BB3D6249943091E8&page=1&active_now=&active_today=

M2: https://www.qldbustracker.com/vehicle_history.php?vehicle_filter=&route_filter=M2&depot=&company_id=A7393ED51E387246BB3D6249943091E8&page=1&active_now=&active_today=

S5111 (TAG) really went from doing 130/140/150 yesterday, to being condemned M1 and M2 from 4:33am to 11:35am today. :joy:

Another example is S1644 (artic), doing M1 and M2 runs’ from 5:25am to 12:56pm today.

^RM1/2 services were operating this morning due to the closure of the busway for the Brisbane to Gold Coast ride.

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Talking about dwell times, how about issues at KGS station aka City Hall when the screen doors are flashing red and the metro doors are closed. Sometimes the screen doors close so slowly even when the metro doors are closed. They are slower than lift doors closing and the bus cant leave until all platform screen doors are fully closed and the red light turns off. (It can take over minute sometimes for those screen doors to close even when the metro bus or regular bus is ready to leave.) :joy:

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On another note there has been a weird sewage smell on platform 1 at KGS. Something wrong with the ventilation and A/C. It smells like it’s contaminated.

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