Cross River Rail (CRR)

Given the required headway in the long run I expect all trains would run all stations from Boggo Road to Yeerongpilly in the AM counterpeak, and all trains would run all stations from Yeerongpilly to Boggo Road in the PM counterpeak (including Gold Coast trains). Beenleigh trains are currently timetabled to do Boggo Road to Yeerongpilly in 8 minutes (2 minutes for each station). Assuming about the same travel time from Boggo Road underground vs surface to Dutton Park, you would be adding a few minutes to Gold Coast trains, as would adding Hope Island and Merrimac, but you would be picking up time overall on a trip from the CBD to Varsity Lakes due to the combination of:

  1. ETCS Level 2 roll out for the entire length of CRR and south to Varsity Lakes, allowing closer separation between higher numbers of trains and so better acceleration / deceleration and higher speed limits than the current lineside signalling allows.
  2. Faster trip to the CBD (Albert St) via CRR compared with Central / Roma Street via the Merivale.
  3. LGCFR allowing uninterrupted express running from Kuraby to Beenleigh (and facilitating a better timetable for express running on the third track from Dutton Park to Kuraby).
  4. Eventually - future amplification between Kuraby and Yeerongpilly. There is adequate room for a fourth track, and I doubt we are getting any sort of whizzbang bypass tunnel much as we’d like it.
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They should have counter peak services that run to Loganlea when CRR opens

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This piece reads like an advertorial to me!

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If they can get the counter peak services as far as Loganlea, then they may as well run them all the way to Beenleigh.

It’s just the new Loganlea station and amplification there will be ready when CRR opens. Beenleigh station is unlikely to be ready.

Loganlea would be a good terminator rather than Kuraby having the Tafe and hospital there as well.

Maybe the needed upgrades will come with a set of steak knives…

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Loganlea likely wouldn’t have the capacity to handle terminators pre-LGCFR.

The current works underway on the new Loganlea Station will see it built as a 2 platform station only. The additional 2 platforms will be added as part of LGCFR works.

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Depends how they do the track configurations, but that station would be ideal for turnback considering its location and surrounding health and educational services.

Track configuration initially will be the same as the current station - one line in each direction. This is probably all academic, as when CRR comes on line LGCFR works will be in full swing so the line will be a ripped-apart mess.

Track closures for the LGCFR project will be significant. Presents some challenges to maintaining rail services, particularly south I expect.

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I’m hoping that LGCFR can be built in a half and half fashion as much as is practical, so that the existing 2 tracks can remain operational while the new tracks are put in, then switch over to the new tracks while the old lines can be adjusted.

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Carried on LGCFR discussion here: Gold Coast Faster Rail Project - #185 by Ozbob

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When the tunnel approaches full, all counter-peak services must run at all-stops speed. Until that point you need at least one extra slot for each all-stops service (assuming all out-of-service running can be at express speed).

It still blows my mind they didn’t either tunnel to Yeerongpilly or at the very least quad track the surface corridor. What a missed opportunity.

Having said that, from what I can see on Google Maps there is sufficient room in the corridor at Yeerongpilly station to have some reconfiguring so that the express and/or dead running counter peak services could overtake the all stoppers there. Japan has lots of lines like this and they make it work efficiently. I know they’ve just redone Yeerongpilly station but it might be a relatively cost effective solution.

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  • Significant progress is underway at Albert Street station, with the station canopy taking shape alongside Queensland’s longest escalator and a new subtropical plaza.
  • Major engineering works are continuing, with high productivity returning across the site.
  • This milestone is part of the Crisafulli Government’s broader rail transformation, including essential works across all lines during the holiday period.
  • The Crisafulli Government is delivering a plan for Queensland’s future after a decade of decline under Labor.
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The spin is doing my head in. I’m not the biggest fan of either major, but anyone quickly wanna remind me if it was the red team or the blue team that started CRR, GCLR, B2N, LGCFR, the QTMP trains, and so on?

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Our network’s progress to something great is slowed drastically by this stupid finger pointing of both major teams. Drop the pitchforks on transport!

Again peddling that the tunnel now costs $19 billion.. I can’t help but feel like the previous Government could have shielded some of this nonsense by being more upfront about all the other projects happening that were separately budgeted.

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It’s a dumb media strategy. There was one media statement spin free on Gold Coast Light Rail stage 3 Gold Coast Light Rail - #240 by Ozbob That’s the only recent statement that has been done right in my view.

I think they way things are going the stations will be finished long before testing of trains will be completed.

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