It does make sense as it retains the current Green space in those areas.
M1 capacity will need to be seriously upgraded if these plans come to fruition. Itās chockers at peak hour already.
Nundah - two train stations, one at each the centre and southern ends, with Toombul having a major bus interchange. The Toombul precinct could do with some work, interfacing the station with the bus interchange but that will likely come with the redevelopment of the shopping centre site. Northgate station could serve the northern end of development as well but there are significantly less parcels that could be developed there due to heritage overlays. Great. Should be even higher.
Does anyone know if Nundah under a max height limit due to proximity to the airport? Does the new 15 story limit meet this max height?
Indooroopilly - train station and bus connections at the shops and station. Work could be done (as part of this densification) at improving the experience walking between the train station and the shopping centre (planting, pedestrian crossings and pathways). Train and bus frequency bump ups would be helpful. Great, again should be higher. Very close to the city.
Carindale - 15km from the city, 30 stories height limits, no high capacity (betro potential extension doesnāt count until thereās an active plan with proper segregation in place) transport link ??? This one confuses me. It gets the highest story limit and is the least connected to and furthest from the city. Residents in the new 30 story towers better like waiting for the lift to the carpark, queuing to leave the basement, and then sitting in traffic on the very narrow local streets to get to where they want to go. There is a bus interchange at the shopping centre but itās a pretty hostile place for pedestrians to walk up to.
BCC decision making really confuses me at times.
Biggest thing Nundah needs (IMO) is a decent, frequent buses connection to Chermside, being the nearest large regional shopping centre, and also a major bus interchange, which mostly handles different destinations than Toombul.
GCL and 322 both exist, but frequency and span are both poor. For some reason, BCC is still stuck in a mindset where people use cars for everything except CBD trips, even in inner suburbs like this.
Also, no densification around Eagle Junction. Why? Too scared of NIMBYs? Time to harden up and make some tough decisions. Itās probably the best-served station on the network outside the city core (Roma St-Bowen Hills).
This one feels like BCC preemptively zoning ahead of the Betro, effectively trying to force the Betro into existence by necessity.
The thing is, they need the State Gov to be on board for their eastern metro extension, considering it will require considerable additional busway construction, which (for the most part) is outside the jurisdiction of council.
I would have liked to see some other suburbs receive the densification treatment though.
Holland Park West / Tarragindi in the vicinity of HPW busway station, the parts of MacGregor immediately adjacent to the Upper Mount Gravatt Busway station, Yeerongpilly, Yeronga, Fairfield, etc.
Pretty much every station from Boggo Rd to Coopers Plains.
Thereās no reason Northgate canāt be medium density. Traditional Character overlays in BCC need to die.
Strongly disagree. Our tin and timber housing is to Brisbane what terrace housing is to Melbourne - itās culturally and historically important to the city and needs to be protected.
There needs to be balance between increasing densification around public transport hubs, while protecting our character housing across the wider suburbs in which they reside.
They can have character style townhouses up to 4 storeys though. That can increase density without affecting the surrounding overall heritage of the area.
Modern builds with replica character features is not a direct replacement for authentic pre-1946 housing.
Would Melbourne demolish their historic terrace housing to build modern townhouses with some pastiche terrace features?
Edit: If there are blocks where the existing house has already been removed, or it has been previously altered to the extent that it is no longer representative, then a townhouse development with replica character features would be appropriate. However, if you are removing good pre-1946 house for a modern development with mock character features, that generally isnāt appropriate.
Examples of which none are representative of the Queensland timber and tin architectural vernacular.
Alot of families prefer townhouses over apartments too.
I seriously doubt we will ever see an Eastern busway and the Betro will never see use on OCR. Thereās just no space without either tunnelling from the current busway to Carina, skyway (itās like skyrail, but shit) or taking a wrecking ball to 400+ houses.
I think itās going in the too hard basket.
If Carindale gets 30+ stories, weāll be getting gridlock for decades.
Yes, but a lot of families (I dare say a majority) would opt for a house over a townhouse if it is within their budget to do so.
Theyāre also more likely to trade other lifestyle factors to have the freehold detached house. Speaking with the strat planners at Scenic Rim, Beaudesert / Glen Eagle is growing faster than even the high series under the SEQ Regional Plan, because the demand for this product at a decent price point is insane.
As with the example pic, this is very common in European cities as well. You would struggle to see original character housing in the suburbs of most European cities, as they have been replaced by modern dwellings.
There have been also many experts weighing in that Brisbane could increase its housing just by building townhouses in most suburbs up to 4 storeys that would support growth and affordability. At the same time I do support high-rises in Indooroopilly, Mount Gravatt, Ipswich and Springfield as well as Chermside and Carindale which is suitable for 1-4 people.
I do also support highrise TODs around stations, like Fortitude Valley Central Station, Roma Street Station, Boggo Road, Bowen Hills, Albion, Taringa, and Toowong. There is so much infill to do which can be done now.
Iām happy for important buildings or even whole areas to get heritage protections but the character overlay doesnāt do this.
It allows the authentic architectural history to be degraded and prevents densification. The worst of both worlds.
We need to try to find ways to densify all areas around train stations and no overlays should encourage single family swellings close to stations.



